‘CRAZINESS’ in climate field leads dissenter Dr. Judith Curry to resign

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The actual application of science involves testing hypotheses. The hypothesis of a climate sensitivity to CO2 of 3 deg C fails those tests. The models (and their limits) which are being used to justify public energy policy do not match existing data.
     
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    That's your ignorant denier cult myth that has nothing to do with the actual science. The evidence does in fact fully support the conclusions of the large majority of climate scientists that climate sensitivity to a doubling of CO2 is about 3 degrees C. or higher.

    Why do you stooge for the fossil fuel industry on topics you know nothing about?
     
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    The fact that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is half of what the model consensus is has everything to do with the scientific method. The model consensus has no meaning if that consensus does not agree with real world data. There is nothing mythical about that.
     
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    Windmills and solar power panels however, are anything but free.
     
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    That is NOT A FACT! That is just your fraudulent denier cult myth based on ignorance and denial of reality.



    True, but in the real world, the scientific consensus on climate sensitivity does in fact agree with the "real world data"



    Indeed, your denial of reality is not mythical, it is politically motivated insanity.
     
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    Where has a model with a climate sensitivity of 3 successfully backcasted ??
     
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    It is actually called "hind-casting" in climate science.....and all of the major climate models in use today have been quite successful at hindcasting the Earth's climate over the last century....as can be seen here.
     
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    What climate sensitivity was used ?? The link is to the third AR from the year 2001 and does not include the pause in global warming. Got anything more recent ??
     
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    neither is the industry around oil and gas.
    The fuel of windmills and solar power cells is free.
     
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    What pauze in global warming?
    We have been breaking global heat record 3 times after 2001.
     
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    Not without adjusting it to fit.
     
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    Actually much, much more than that....16 of the 17 hottest years on record have happened since 2001.

    NASA, NOAA Data Show 2016 Warmest Year on Record Globally
    NASA
    Jan. 18, 2017
    Earth’s 2016 surface temperatures were the warmest since modern recordkeeping began in 1880, according to independent analyses by NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

    Globally-averaged temperatures in 2016 were 1.78 degrees Fahrenheit (0.99 degrees Celsius) warmer than the mid-20th century mean. This makes 2016 the third year in a row to set a new record for global average surface temperatures.

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    The planet’s long-term warming trend is seen in this chart of every year’s annual temperature cycle from 1880 to the present, compared to the average temperature from 1980 to 2015. Record warm years are listed in the column on the right.
    - Credits: NASA/Joshua Stevens, Earth Observatory

    The 2016 temperatures continue a long-term warming trend, according to analyses by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. NOAA scientists concur with the finding that 2016 was the warmest year on record based on separate, independent analyses of the data.

    Because weather station locations and measurement practices change over time, there are uncertainties in the interpretation of specific year-to-year global mean temperature differences. However, even taking this into account, NASA estimates 2016 was the warmest year with greater than 95 percent certainty.

    “2016 is remarkably the third record year in a row in this series,” said GISS Director Gavin Schmidt. “We don’t expect record years every year, but the ongoing long-term warming trend is clear

    The planet’s average surface temperature has risen about 2.0 degrees Fahrenheit (1.1 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere.

    Most of the warming occurred in the past 35 years, with 16 of the 17 warmest years on record occurring since 2001. Not only was 2016 the warmest year on record, but eight of the 12 months that make up the year – from January through September, with the exception of June – were the warmest on record for those respective months. October, November, and December of 2016 were the second warmest of those months on record – in all three cases, behind records set in 2015.

    NASA’s analyses incorporate surface temperature measurements from 6,300 weather stations, ship- and buoy-based observations of sea surface temperatures, and temperature measurements from Antarctic research stations. These raw measurements are analyzed using an algorithm that considers the varied spacing of temperature stations around the globe and urban heating effects that could skew the conclusions. The result of these calculations is an estimate of the global average temperature difference from a baseline period of 1951 to 1980.
     

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