“Ribs & (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)”, core American value?

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Not responsive. Why? Because you are a partisan. Lawyers may be disbarred for offering evidence they know is false to a court. A vigorous defense does not include perjury. Surely you know that.

    A lawyer who knows that a defendant is guilty may not put him on the stand. That is a fact.
    Lawyers may not be compelled to defend anyone. That is a fact.

    Hillary Clinton is a misogynist. Her record speaks for itself.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    That too.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many conservatives have long criticized Clinton for dishonoring the WH with his actions.

    But they have no problem supporting a lech like Donald.

    Another example of conservative double standards and hypocrisy.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And yet you have no problem supporting a lech like Donald.

    Another example of conservative double standards and hypocrisy.
     
  5. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Yes, anyone with even the slightest knowledge of how American women think and act knows the sexual assault charge is pure political fabrication.
     
  6. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    JFK was a lech. FDR was a lech. Ike was a lech. I am sure there were many others.
    Clinton is lech, which is irrelevant, and a rapist - sexual assault and rape are crimes of violence against women.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    There is no evidence that it was without consent. If Trump had ever grabbed a woman's genitals without her consent the evidence would have been loud, clear and instant. Surely you know that.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Donald is a rapist and sexual assaulter.

    Unproven accusations are fun and easy to make.
     
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    Except that's not what always happens. Seriously, you need to get educated about how women respond to sexual assault. Not all reactions are loud, clear, or instant.

    It makes me wonder about you.
     
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    Does it say sexual assault in there? No? It says forcible touching ? OK then what are we arguing about?

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    You do realize she covered for bill and that's what we're talking about right?
     
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    The real thing in Bill Clinton vs Locker room braggadocio in trump, and You have the nerve to call some one else a hypocrite??? Pot meet kettle.
     
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    Sexual Abuse/Sexual Assault. The actual charge for illegal touching as I have clearly shown is 3rd Degree Sexual Abuse.

    I suppose that someone who beats up their child and is guilty of Child Abuse is NOT guilty of Assault by your silly word games. Again sad and pathetic

    Proof???? I have asked over and over and over again for some proof that HRC willingly participated in cover-ups, smearing or anything else related to Bill Clinton's sexual peccadillo's. The only evidence I have received so far is a book written by one of Bill Clinton's accusers who is a proven liar and lied under oath and in one part of one chapter of her book claims that HRC led some sort of anti-Bimbo squad for Bill. The notion of which has been thoroughly debunked. So please provide me with some proof of said claim.
     
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    Read what I was responding to before you embarrass yourself further.

    I said....

    Partizan said....

    I responded....

     
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    Of course, most moral people are offended by Bill Clinton, just like we are with Trump. Bill and Donald aren't much different. They are immoral men who have used their power to abuse women.
     
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    Trump isn't in the White House.........yet.
     
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    And yet you have no problem supporting a sexual assault enabler and her husband.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How astute you are.

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    She's not.
     
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    There are at least 3 separate victims corroborating Bill Clinton's criminal behavior. He settled with Jones for $850K.

    So, let's see your evidence against Trump?
     
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    Sure she has.

     
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    Stop pretending that you know nothing about American women and girls. You are an American - right?

    The CBS local new report left out a lot:

    “One incident involved females hazing underclassmen at a Powderpuff football game … both verbal and physical violence, and at least twenty juniors total were targeted. Some victims were punched and kicked and one had a cooler slammed over her head. They were covered with urine, paint, fish guts, and trash, wrapped with pig intestines, and smeared with feces. One girl needed stitches and another had a broken ankle. One was forced to eat excrement, resulting in a bacterial infection. All of this was videotaped and viewed around the world.” Laura L. Finley Florida Atlantic University* and
Peter S. Finley, Nova Southeastern University, Journal of Criminal Justice and Popular Culture, 14 (2), 197-219, © 2007 School of Criminal Justice, University at Albany

    http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol14is2/finley.pdf

    American women are not shrinking violets. They are notorious all over the world as exceptionally tough and aggressive.
     
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    I disagree. In the time that the message was filmed(2005), it might not have amounted to too much. But I suspect the whole being married to Melanie thing would end up carrying some significance. But in 2016, even if Trump hadn't been running for the presidency he would have had faced character assassination. Simply put, none of us are very good at the "he without sin should cast the first stone" in the Social Media era.

    We'd all like to judge others(Including myself) presuming that we alone are unscathed. But that's not true. All of us have crap in the closet, all of us have things we must deal with. And the test of someone's character is not deflecting away from it, as Trump has done.
     
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    I would recommend you take a look at #notokay on Twitter. There are more than 3 million stories at this point refuting your argument.
     
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    Notice how the article is long on allegation and non-existent on proof. What campaign narratives at the time? Written by whom? Where are these narratives so they can judged. Once again we are treated to unsubstantiated crapola from the right.
     
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    Here are all the times Donald Trump has been accused of rape or attempted rape

    http://fusion.net/story/328522/donald-trump-accused-rape-sexual-assault/

    The first and most famous accusation comes from Trump’s ex-wife Ivana Trump. During a deposition in the ’90s, Ivana described a harrowing scene in which Trump held her arms back, pulled at her hair, and raped her in a fit of rage.

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    The second accusation of sexual assault comes from a 1997 lawsuit. Jill Harth says she and her romantic partner were working with Trump on a business deal, when The Donald started making unwelcome sexual advances. In a lawsuit filed against Trump, she says he leered at her inappropriately, groped her on several occasions without her consent, and even “attempted rape.”

    The third case against Trump comes via a recent federal lawsuit filed in June 2016 in the State of New York by “Jane Doe.” In the suit, Doe alleges that Trump raped her back in 1994, when she was just 13 years old.


    And now we have Donald himself corroborating these claims by saying how he can get away with grabbing (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No she hasn't.

     

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