‘A perfect storm’: US facing hunger crisis as demand for food banks soars no

Seriously? Welfare isn't creating gang members and criminals? The welfare state has been so good to the inner city, minority, communities, hasn't it? You're amazing.

 

They were supposed to "Buy American!" regardless of price. Right?

Chinese goods were cheaper. Why do we want those $2/hour jobs back when we have $20/hour service sector jobs?

Who are we talking about? We've had 96% of people working until COVID-19.

 

Wow. You're really an elitist, aren't you? But that's the left for you. The poor have no choice except to be poor and exist only because of the benevolence of the Democrats.. You claim to be the compassionate left but you and the left have nothing but contempt for the poor. Disgusting.

You avoided the question. But high school students didn't get pushed aside because of bad times; they got pushed aside because we import unskilled labor. Once again, are there any jobs a high-school student would do that wouldn't require a "living wage"?

Non sequitur. We're not discussing wages versus GDP. There's a simple solution to that, though. Be part of the ones benefiting from your share of the GDP rather than the labor. Again, workers' wages are flat because the Democrats and Chamber-of-Commerce Republicans are importing millions of immigrants per year to keep wages flat. I'm glad to know that you support deporting all illegal immigrants, including visa overstayers, and closing the border to increase wages for the working poor in the United States - or is this just another hypocritical post?

You're lying. It goes on for every child who is not getting three square meals a day, seven days a week in the United States. No child in America whose parents chose not to take responsibility for feeding their own children, choosing welfare instead, does not make enough of of SNAP to feed their children far better than those who are paying their own way. If there are hungry children in the United States it is because the parents are neglecting the children, using their money and mine for things other than feeding their children.

Seriously? Neglecting your child, letting them go hungry while you spend money irresponsibly, is no worse to you than not paying your credit card? And you ask if it is me hurting the child? You're quite an unbelievable character. But you're a Democrat.

No, not debtors' prison; child neglectors' prison.

Answered separately. Once again, the left, and I'll include most Republicans with the Democrats, are hurting the children. Conservatives, on the other hand, want to lift them, and their future children and grandchildren, out of poverty and off the welfare plantation.

 

yep, and when they strike for more wages the right attacks them

the reality is, these essential workers need jobs and sometimes the rich take advantage of them.. that is why we have a min wage

 

Who are we talking about? I thought we were talking about people who needed to get food at the food bank.

 

They choose to be taken advantage of. No one has to work for McDonald's. They do it because they get enough to meet their needs and it's easier for the lazy than it is to learn more valuable skills.

 

no they don't, the greedy rich choose to take advantage of them, that is why we have a min wage

corps do not have to outsource American jobs, pay low salaries, ect... they choose too

Corporate greed is destroying America from within

 

Why would corporations pay high salaries? The Democrats make sure there's plenty of low-cost illegal-immigrant labor to keep wages low. Democrats and Republicans alike refuse to pass eVerify to ensure that only those legally authorized to work in the United States work.

It's a lie to imply that Democrats care about low-wages or workers. Greedy Democrats care about votes and ensuring that the poor remain poor and remain dependent on government and programs created by Democrats.

 

And, if the poor are being taken advantage of by choice of corporations, the poor are certainly not choosing to NOT be taken advantage of.

 

why would anyone want to pay less than the min wage?

why did Trump hire illegals?

greed?

 

And you don't have a clue.

No, that's education. Trumpers often make the mistake, so you're not alone.

I'm not a Democrat, and definitely not a Trumper. You'd starve poor people out and you don't like being confronted about it.

I taught people with below-average ability who had lost their jobs and were trying their best to learn computer skills. It was too much for some of them. Have a heart.

No, they do get pushed aside in a downturn because employers hold on to employees with dependents.

You blamed Democrats for what has been going on for forty years. I pointed out you were wrong. Now you incorrectly blame illegal immigration as the reason for stagnant wages when it's only part of the problem.

You've held forth on these matters before. Your only suggestion is to put children through hell in an effort to force parents to behave.

You would let a six-year-old go hungry in trying to lever up on parents. No getting around that.

 

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense.

I used to do a lot of assembly language programming. Example... I added fifty commands to Applesoft BASIC for Apple // series computers in the 1980s. I taught computer programming. You obviously have above average-ability and don't seem to have empathy for those with average and below-average aptitude.

Only a few states have filial laws and they rarely enforce them. Good luck roping in nieces and nephews.

The feds can have a roll if they wish.

No one expects employers to offer more than the going rate.

You aren't living in the real world if you think conservatives oppose bringing in cheap labor. Trump himself employed illegals until the media blew the whistle on his resorts.

I was born and raised in California. Braceros were the big issue when I was a kid. We've been going round and round about illegals my entire life regardless of which party was in power.

The birth rate was much higher back then and kids have always been cheap labor. I took care of horses when I was 10-13, was then gardener for baseball fields until I was old enough to get myself a union job at a Vons supermarket.

Until this coronavirus business, we had jobs for just about everyone--legals, illegals, our kids--with help wanted signs everywhere.

 

Leading up to punishing the parents, kids will go hungry. Can you think of a different approach that won't involve punishing children?

 

Can you figure out a better way? Why do kids have to go hungry as part of your way of conducting business?

See above. Why do kids have to go hungry?

 

You continue your approach that puts children at risk.

Why do you Trumpers have a tendency to name-call and misrepresent folks' views? I've never voted for a Democrat in my life, yet you think it's okay to call me a leftist.

Of course not. Did I need to use a picture of a hungry child to make the point?

You don't know what my solution is. You're making stuff up.

Wrong again.

A mouthful of stuff you made up. I'm not a Democrat or on "the left." I guess you're a bit defensive about your approach leaving a lot of hungry children.

 

You think people don't respond to poverty by engaging in criminal behavior?

The way we provide income assistance creates criminals.

As I said, the way we provide assistance creates criminals. We would do much better, for example, if we adopted a negative income tax.

You're projecting with your sarcasm. You're the one with a starve-a-child program.

 

Why are you blaming Democrats when even Trump was caught hiring illegals?

We could incorporate the SS card into a national ID modeled on the Nexus Pass. We could also issue a Nexus card to visa holders and when the visa runs out, the card stops working because the pass is tied to a national database. We can read the card, including test the biometric data in the government database, with a smartphone. Every potential employer, even people hiring domestics or casual labor, can check to see they aren't hiring an illegal.

Trumper propaganda.

 

It was right there in my post... give them a basic allowance of food.

 

Have you been affected by food issues yet:

 

Feed the kids at school and make sure they have access to food at home.

 

You're still prepared to let her go hungry...



You aren't amazing.

 

That's what I am talking about. No discretionary funds given to the irresponsible parents. Only food.

 

People ...just stop

We need to get as much money as possible into the hands of the most number of people as quickly as possible

The old rules are out the window.

We need to do this to

A. Keep the economy going

B. Give people the money they need to SURVIVE

This is a game changer folks

 

Due to a learning disorder he isnt college material like his older sister is She is a jr at the local univ and in their nursing program .

So using a higher education is not an option for him. If he lived in the 60s and graduated from HS , like many of my peers back then he could have got a job at one of our factories and joined the middle class by just playing by the rules and hard work. No college needed . This sector took people not suitable for college and they prospered by their hard work. Non of my peers had to get a service sector job in those days And didnt since teens did most of that work back then instead of grown people.

It is a fact that living wage jobs is no longer as prolific for those hundreds of millions of average people not blessed with higher I Qs . All if his friends if not in college piling up huge debt that they will never pay off are service sector people in the low wage service sector economy with little upward mobility. No matter how hard they work they will never be middle class in this kind of economic model .

Once upon a time a HS grad could go into construction which is hard labor and have no problem getting a middle class wage and made enough to have a family . Here in my area the youth are not marrying due to our economy as middle class jobs were offshored for max profit for the top.

I bet upward mobility for average people is at an all time low as it should be given the sscheme of nefarious globalism . Hard work is no longer the key to success as it was in my youth. I am not making excuses but just stating what the big picture is.

As my fav right of center says we now have generations who will never own much of anything like a home. And it has little to do with anything but the economic model both parties and the elites changed in order to enrich to the max only themselves .Our economy no longer serves most people nor this nation. And that isnt the fault of average people except their lower iqs were not sufficient enough to. understand the common sense truth of Perot. And succeeding generations didnt understand that truth either.

Simply said we lost the economic model that served the majority and were given one designed for the elites and those people suited for the professional class, the upper middle .

So my grandson will end up doing construction work with a 1099 instead of a w2. For 15 bucks an hour and having to pay all of his social security payments without his employer paying half. His future as well as his peers will be neoserfs and never own homes .

Unless this govt refuses to be owned by our elites and structures our capitalusm to serve the people again. By having value for labor again instead of seeing people as nothing but a commodity to be exploited at any and all costs

Capitalism should never have been exempted from morality and common decency! And this is what we have today. Yet some on the fringe right think they live in 1960s America where hard work is all it takes to earn a living wage and prospering by hard work. This is an example where an ideological belief has little relationship to the economic reality. And hence as much value as teats on a boar hog!

I feel so badly for the younger ggenerations given the utter lack of opportunity. And withoit that it is like trying to make an omelet without eggs. Even as some on the right wont admit there is no eggs and want to blame the omelet cook for the lack of the omelet.

But my fav right of center fellow , steve bannon gets it showing there is intelligence right of center. And an example that right of center people care about the common man and knows how our elites and both parties have committed economic treason on most Americans.

If not for Bannon the right would be a clear and present danger to ccivilization and the average American just like the left is.

Bannon represents what the GOP once was as well as what the dems once were . Intelligent and sane! !!

 

Nonsense. If they parent well, they should get money.