‘ART OF THE DEAL’ GHOSTWRITER: TRUMP IS ‘DEEPLY DISTURBED’ AND ‘UTTERLY UNTRUSTWORTHY’

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  1. Durandal

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    And he is not making things better. He doesn't even know how to.
     
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    You would have told the same lis about anyone who want conservative reform of washington
     
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    Workers and investors are doing far better under Trump in spite of the opposition of the united corrupt bipartisan political class and its MSM. I doubt that he will ever be vulnerable to impeachment.
     
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    Trump bought 5,000 copies of his book to bump it to the best seller list. Don't you ever get tired of him making a fool of Americans?
     
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    Right next to the Gideon Bible in his hotels? ;-)

    What are the total sales numbers?
     
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    Sorry, I have no idea. I read part of it back in the late 1980s.. Trump is a creep.
     
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    I read it carefully as soon as Trump decided to run. Trump is a very effective, often ruthless businessman.
    He was not at all shy about telling anyone who read his book exactly how he views government and operates his businesses.
     
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    Right.. That's why he's had so many bankruptcies, screwed over so many vendors, contractors and investors.
     
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    Trump must not have paid him what the ghost writer thought he was worth? ahaha ha ah.

    I find it so strange, that so many people due to hatred are so concerned about trump, and yet they live under fascism, oligarchy as evidenced by Princeton, and really do not care. LOL Just give em someone to hate, and they are good to go.
     
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    Do you think they'd let you vote if it did anything? "Agitate, educate, organize" is a strategy that's worth infinitely more than voting. People like me doing that is the reason why the word antifa is on the lips of so many terrified fascists.
     
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    It is crazy how much people bully this guy

    Why can't we talk about the policies he wants to enact or get rid of?
     
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    You came to this forum just to say something like this? Do you consider this an argument or are you just kinda soap box preaching?

    Do you think this wins you votes or loses you votes to push such rhetoric? Honest question?
     
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    So, we have his appointee, the Secretary of State, calling him a Moron...
    and head of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, saying he's a child who needs supervision..
    And they're both right
    NEVER in the history of the Presidency!
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    In part. As anyone who actually reads The Art Of The Deal will know Trump seldom puts his own money up front. He makes sure that Wall Street bankers will do everything they can to help him succeed, or be left holding the short end of the stick.

    Probably a lesson there for Trump's political class opposition. ;-)
     
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    Right.. Trump was always about using other people's money.
     
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    He is very good at taking every advantage of the money and banking system.
     
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    Well, Trump has always made it clear that if you borrowed enough money, you owned the lender.
     
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    The only person that is the bully is Trump himself. Seems that everyone has the right to express their observations about this "guy", his conduct, and ineffectiveness as a leader...All one has to do is study his "alert of the deal " on which he bases most of his style and decisions. To him, everything is a deal........when the real governing is quite different.

    re: his policies: Well, he has a need to destroy and then to rebuild into what HE thinks is superior. It is about HIM and HIS EGO , not what is best for the country and international stage.
     
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    Yes, smart.

    I checked the sales of Art Of The Deal and found this:

    Book sales[edit]
    Precise figures for the number of copies sold of Art of the Deal are not available because its publication preceded the Nielsen BookScan era.[14] It had a first printing of 150,000 copies.[8] Several magazine and book accounts state that it sold over 1 million hardcover copies[8] or 1 million copies.[4][9] A 2016 CBS News investigation reported that an unnamed source familiar with the book's sales placed the figure at 1.1 million copies sold.[15] Wiki

    Yahoo Finance reported 240,000 additional sales of republished titles in 2016,
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/if-b...onald-trump-would-be-president-151742659.html
     
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    Today at a military base as they played retreat and lowered the flag everybody stopped and stood for the lowering.... except for Trump. He sat on his fat ass and kept on talking.
     
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    "Last time someone limited himself to call the dotard a "fcking moron" - let's see how Trump gets the message."

    Yes" the dotard." Even Kim of NK has Trump pegged. ;-)

    T's sad as the inconsistency he demonstrates continually only contributes to the chaos he creates Something an EFFECTIVE LEADER should NOT do.

    He seems to hunger for respect and affection and yet behaves and speaks in a manner that makes people reject him , dislike him and even fear him. He seems to draw power from belittling others.
     
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    Is Trump mentally ill? Or is America? Psychiatrists weigh in.
    Review of "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump" by Bandy X. Lee (ed.), "Twilight of American Sanity" by Allen Frances, and "Fantasyland" by Kurt Andersen.
    By Carlos Lozada
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sychiatrists-weigh-in/?utm_term=.27d3603015a9


    ......Now, some psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are shedding long-held norms to argue that Trump’s condition presents risks to the nation and the world. “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” features more than two dozen essays breaking down the president’s perceived traits, which the contributors find consistent with symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder, sociopathy and other maladies.
    “Collectively with our coauthors, we warn that anyone as mentally unstable as Mr. Trump simply should not be entrusted with the life-and-death powers of the presidency,” Judith Lewis Herman of Harvard Medical School and Bandy X. Lee of the Yale School of Medicine write in the book’s prologue.

    If so, what should we make of the nation that entrusted him with precisely such powers? In his new book, “Twilight of American Sanity,” psychiatrist Allen Frances asserts that Trump is not mentally ill — we are. “Calling Trump crazy allows us to avoid confronting the craziness in our society,” he writes. “We can’t expect to change Trump, but we must work to undo the societal delusions that created him.” And those delusions, Kurt Andersen contends in “Fantasyland,” have been around for a long time. “People tend to regard the Trump moment — this post-truth, alternative facts moment — as some inexplicable and crazy new American phenomenon,” he writes. “In fact, what’s happening is just the ultimate extrapolation and expression of attitudes and instincts that have made America exceptional for its entire history.”

    So, depending on which of these books you trust — and their persuasive powers vary considerably — you might conclude that Trump is of unsound mind, or that we’re the deranged ones for electing him, or that America has always been disturbed, with Trump’s presidency just the latest manifestation.

    And here’s the really crazy thing: These options are not mutually exclusive.

    Mental illness hardly disqualifies one from the presidency. Abraham Lincoln is thought to have suffered from severe depression, but he held himself together and the union, too. “Equating mental illness with incapacity merely stigmatizes the mentally ill,” clinical psychologist Craig Malkin writes in “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.” But Malkin and other contributors argue that Trump’s behavior — his political statements and actions as well as his interviews, books and social-media activity — suggest more ominous possibilities.

    Trump displays signs of “extreme present hedonism,” the tendency to live in the moment without considering consequences, seeking to bolster one’s self-esteem no matter the risk. Or he exhibits “Narcissistic personality disorder,” which includes believing you’re better than others, exaggerating your achievements and expecting constant praise. Combine hedonism, narcissism and bullying, and you get “an impulsive, immature, incompetent person who, when in the position of ultimate power, easily slides into the role of the tyrant,” Philip Zimbardo (of the famous Stanford prison experiment) and Rosemary Sword write. Others suggest that Trump shows indications of sociopathy, including lack of empathy, absence of guilt and intentional manipulation. Put it all together and you have “malignant narcissism,” which includes antisocial behavior, paranoid traits, even sadism.

    “Mr. Trump’s sociopathic characteristics are undeniable,” retired Harvard Psychiatry professor Lance Dodes concludes. “They create a profound danger for America’s democracy and safety. Over time these characteristics will only become worse, either because Mr. Trump will succeed in gaining more power and more grandiosity with less grasp on reality, or because he will engender more criticism producing more paranoia, more lies, and more enraged destruction.” And when the president stands before the U.N. General Assembly and threatens to “totally destroy” an enemy country of 25 million people, enraged destruction seems on point.."...

    and more​

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    Interesting . Trump does exhibit a personalilty disorder. The obvious symptoms are:
    Manipulative, extremist behavior and thinking, severe narcissism, has a destructive tenancy and behaviors that demonstrate that. Unless his talk is structured , he is inconsistent , easily distracted, and incoherent. He has not grasped the gravity of his job and approaches it as a reality show of some sort. He has control issues. and the need to dominate and dictate. He cannot tolerate any kind of criticism and over reacts or reacts bally. allowing himself to get distracted from the PURPOSE he is IN the Job he is in. He is inarticulate, and yet very crude in his speech He DEMANDS loyalty and respect and yet does not return it.......is not capable of returning it.......as he is too self centered. His "what is in it for me" approach has been transferred into his decisions and policies. His destruction of anything OBAMA has a distinct personal element to it. Like a personal crusade. There is no logic to it anymore than then there is to his "tearing up every agreement " made and defying every organization on the international level.

    He is addicted to power but is terrified of losing it or control. He has a short fuse which he demonstrates on Twitter and firing people with hardly a second thought. Sadly he lacks a solid inner core of ethical and moral yardstick.

    Just a few observations that are evident to everyone who is observing him since he took office. People, Leaders of nations and the world is watching this unpredictable erratic person now. If he is operating with deliberate drama then he is not taking his job very seriously. this not makes him irresponsible but psychologically dysfunctional.
     

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