‘Emoluments’ Challenge To Donald Trump’s Ethics Conflicts Gets A Big Boost

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  1. In The Dark

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    Given the state of TDS I think you're wrong. They MUST be expecting President Hitlary.
     
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    Did I accuse you of anything specifically? No I don't think I did.

    No, I haven't. I'll tell you why. I never said, not once, that Trump shouldn't release his tax returns. Go ahead and check.

    Everyone has just assumed that's the case, because I'm laughing at the sheer audacity of those who are crying the loudest for "transparency".

    Please tell us what conflict of interest could exist in Trumps income from last year before he was elected. I'd love to hear it.

    Incidentally, what no one has realized is that what you'd have to get are all the tax returns from all the corporations that Trump is a part of....not just his own personal taxes which would tell you little of anything.

    I hope he leaks his own 2006 tax returns so Maddow can have another exclusive. The last one was hilarious.
     
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    Here's my take:

    Releasing tax returns is a red herring anyway. Releasing their tax returns doesn't prove anything. There are a million ways to hide money that would never show up on income tax. It takes about 10 minutes and an email address to set up an offshore account tied to a shell company.

    Trumps taxes are like nothing we've ever dealt with before. There are many more possible reasons why Trump may want to keep his tax returns private, not the least of which is the resulting distractions and false reporting that would ensue. The MSM takes everything Trump does and twists it into a negative. Something like 90% of MSM coverage of Trump is negative....the same MSM that practically ignored the previous POTUS' scandals.

    The mans taxes from 2009 are still be looked at by the IRS because his tax breaks, depreciation and a million other factors can't be resolved in a single years return. That's why I said earlier you'd have to look at 10 years worth of his taxes to get a real picture.

    If Trump released last years taxes and it showed that he paid no tax due to something from two years ago, the media would spin that all day.

    I'd much rather the POTUS be able to focus on doing positive things like working on trade, illegal immigration, jobs and everything else he promised.

    This, of course, is why progressives want his tax returns out there. They know they are so complex that they can basically make up whatever they want, and no one will be able to understand or dispute it without considerable time spent.

    Assuming that criminal action is occurring because he hasn't released his tax returns YET, from a year in which he wasn't even the POTUS yet, is a logical fallacy and a wild-***ed assumption.

    You might also note that he still says he'll release them.

    To my knowledge he never said he wouldn't.

    That it isn't being done on the progressive timetable is irrelevant.
     
  4. ThorInc

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    This thread is about emoluments challenges that Trump will face because he chosen not to divest and place his holdings into a blind trust. Not one sentence in your post addresses his conflicts of interests. He has broken the tradition of transparency and divestment and this is why he will eventually lose to these challenges.
     
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    Paying money for a hotel room isn't an "emolument"
     
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    Listen, Mr. Mall Cop, it's entirely about it.

    Raytri spent time explaining why in his own post that the tax questions are relevant. I prompted his response for your benefit, so go read it.

    Otherwise, stop acting like a hall monitor and report it.

    And on the rest of what you said, sure he will. Just keep humming "I will survive" to yourself and you'll be ok.
     
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    You have still tried to make this thread about what you want to grasp at when every argument you have made has been destroyed by multiple posters. You are either unable to defend your position or unable to stay on topic. Regardless, any point you have made has been destroyed. Trump is a walking conflict of interest and it will be his downfall.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just because you claim to have won doesn't make it so.

    Then again Democrats call wins even when they lose, so I'm not surprised.
     
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    For what its worth benghazi was not a scandal. Lmao.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Obama and Rice going on national TV to blame it on a video was real, or a made up piece of filthy straight face lying?
     
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    Benghazi is not a scandal. None of the attacks bush claimed were too sensitive to investigate were a scandal. Yet here you sit, decrying liberal hypocrisy, while flaunting your own.

    Hypocrite.
     
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    So that's a "yes, it was a lie" then?

    Obama and Clinton ruined this mans life, who happens to be one of those "immigrants" they speak of.

    He has never caused a problem, now his life is ruined and he lives in poverty in a homeless shelter in constant fear of his life.

    They did this to him for political purposes, knowing the entire time it was a lie.

    You don't think that's a "scandal"?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/1...d-after-attack-now-lives-in-poverty-fear.html
     
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    Sadly, he is now talking about Bengazi in the emoluments & Trump thread...........he successfully changed the topic and also posted a link!
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read post #259 genius.

    I responded to him.

    You know what, why don't you take your secret decoder ring and go apply for a moderator position since you seem to have nothing else to say except "off topic, lawlz, he said she said you gonna take that" bull****.
     
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    It deserves to be laughed at more.
    Foolish blather
    Well, these claims didn't age well:

    C.R.E.W.’S SILLY EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE LAWSUIT is dismissed.

    “Judge George B. Daniels of United States District Court in Manhattan found that the plaintiffs had failed to show that they had suffered as a result of specific actions by Mr. Trump intended to drum up business for his enterprises. . . . Beyond that, the judge found, the emoluments clauses of the Constitution are intended to protect the country against presidential corruption from foreign influences or financial incentives that might be offered by either states or the federal government. They were not meant to protect businesses from competition from presidentially owned enterprises, he ruled.”

    Sad!
     
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    Oh yes, why you've got him now! This could be it! President Pence by thanksgiving!
     
  17. Zorro

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    Jeeze, you called it!

    And now they are trading in their Pussyhats for Vagina Scarfs!

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