‘Emoluments’ Challenge To Donald Trump’s Ethics Conflicts Gets A Big Boost

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is Trump doing other than making liberal snowflakes heads explode?
     
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    #1, how do you know Trump is a billionaire? Because he told you so? All we have are guesses and estimates.

    #2, how is that relevant? It's okay to give Trump a $1 million bribe, because that's not really a lot to a billionaire? Really?

    If Trump is a billionaire, he is one who bitches about having to make good on small donations he had promised, and routinely nickels and dimes people to whom he owes money. I suspect his money fixation is strong enough that he can be bribed for very small amounts relative to his alleged wealth.
     
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    Stop trying to change the subject, and answer the question. If Hillary's "corruption" was unacceptable, why is Trump's situation -- which is objectively far worse -- just fine?
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have yet to point out anything other than hysterical allegations.
     
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    I see. Okay, side by side comparison of transparency and money flows.

    Clinton: Personal assets in blind trust.
    Trump: Personal assets in "trust" managed by his sons, from which he can withdraw money at any time. Refusal to disengage from his businesses, or sell assets.

    Clinton: Disclosed decades worth of tax returns, so we can see where her money is coming from and who she owes money to
    Trump: Refuses to disclose tax returns, so we have no idea where his money comes from and who he owes money to

    Clinton: Foreign donations went to her foundation, not into her pocket
    Trump: Anything Trump Corporation related (granting of trademarks, contracts, etc.) lines Trump's own pocket

    Clinton: Donors to foundation disclosed, along with rough amounts
    Trump: No disclosure of anything, so we have no idea who is paying him, nor how much

    So I repeat: If Hillary's situation showed massive corruption, why is Trump's situation just fine? Literally EVERYTHING about Trump's situation is worse than Clinton's, in terms of transparency and opportunity for corruption.
     
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    And your point is?
     
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    ~ 10 years ago he paid ~ $40M in income taxes. Booking hotel rooms is not going to influence anyone making that income.

    The rest of your post is Trump Derangement Syndrome.
     
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    What is traditional is not law. You are upset with the law then work to change it. Clinton was required to use a blind trust by law, the President isn't.
     
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    LOL! Yes, being concerned that my president might be bribed is "Derangement Syndrome." Try again.
     
  10. Hoosier8

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    Ah, so hysterical allegations are fact according to the severely TDS crowd.
     
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    Again, trying to deflect. Are you incapable of answering honestly? My question is not about the law, it is about your hypocrisy.

    Clinton was criticized for the "corruption" of foreign donations to her foundation while she was SecState.

    Trump's situation is far worse, yet you're fine with that. No cries of corruption.

    Why?
     
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    No need - the post was sufficient.
     
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    You have yet to point out any wrongdoing when in fact many Clinton associates that donated to the foundation benefited from Clinton being SOS.
     
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    Continuing the lame deflections. Your refusal/inability to answer my clear and supported question demonstrates you have nothing. Thanks for playing.
     
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    Yeah you go ahead and run with that bro.

    Maybe you can throw the Logan Act at him or something else too.

    You guys should pace yourselves.

    We'll just be here laughing on the sidelines.
     
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    As much as I want to think that you're not implying it's a bad thing to ensure that the U.S. Constitution be properly obeyed, that's pretty much what your comment tells me.

    Why do you believe that those examples so clearly do not qualify as a gift?
     
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    I doubt you will get any answer to the last question :).
     
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    You know libs are losing it when they start referencing the Constitution. It's just a piece of paper, remember?

    Like I said, you run with the idea that "dur I chose dis hotel insted dat hotel cuz dur i wanna give a gift to duh president. Nermally I wud use teh udder hotel but im giften teh prezident".

    Another genius argument you've presented here. I await it's outcome with relish.

    You guys should work on a remix of your "I Will Survive" video.
     
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    MrTLegal proved the point again and I actually quoted myself, a first! :)
     
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    And I thought liberals couldn't be any more laughable than they were election night.

    I was wrong.
     
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    The very things that were in great part, a long term well planned character assassination of Hillary Clinton are quite evident a million fold within the Trump house of corruption and yet it does not seem to bother these phonies one bit.
     
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    Impossible, no. Highly unlikely, yes. Witch hunt by sore losers that could care less what kind of damage their juvenile actions cause.
     
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    On my part it will go on as long as I choose. You can tell by my post count I don't engage as often as most but you will find my post generally deal with substance. But in this case, with the unprecedented obstruction and accusations toward our President since he was elected has been it's time to call it what it is.
     
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    Because the clause was intended to stop corruption and pay for play. Renting a room at a hotel that happens to be owned by the President is nothing but normal business activity.
     
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    Unless it's not normal business activity. If a country suddenly switches all of its conferences, travel, dining and other spending to Trump properties, would that not be of concern? That seems to fall squarely in the purview of the Emoluments Clause.
     
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