‘Evil and wicked’: At least 50 killed in Nigeria church attack

900 comments to a dad Palestinian journalist post VS 99 comments to 50 murdered Christians .

 

The left loves to hate on Christians and Jews while always rushing to be the apologists for Muslims.

 

That journalist thread departed the topic right from the beginning.

 

Now now .. lets not be too hard on the Obama-Biden "JV Team". Did you forget that those are "Our bad guys" .. Our team mate. Why you complaining about our team .. doing what we pay them to do.....

 

So what. It's there. And you're probably contributing for it too if you live in the west.

That terror spawned in Iraq when the US was responsible for it as occupying force. By far, the biggest toll that group caused was a toll on the Islamic world itself. Millions fled for their lives. And the Islamic world was the one got destroyed the Caliphate by going from room to room to eradicate it. The US, who is responsible of letting it get out of hand, hardly chipped in.

They take their Torah and claim it's their history of how the Jew came to Israel, and why it's theirs and not the land for Arabs.
That's why they ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arab civilians and killed plenty who resisted back in 1948 or something.
That's why they moved across the border into the West Bank, at the expense of again Arab civilians to living in the middle of a war zone.

Syrians are all over. Less than halve live in Syria. Steve Jobs father was an Arab Syrian. Still 10 % or so in Syria are Chistians. Nothing lied about it.

It still debunks your "Islamic doctrine led to Islamic Caliphates ruling much of the Islamic world from 632 until 1928."
And those people used to pay a tax, and in return they were protected and exempt from being in the army, or they could join the army in order to not pay that taxation.
Muslims were given no choice. They had to join the army to protect Christian taxpayers.

You're making it up it was some violent jihad. The expansion was quick and successful, so what. They mostly let people just be. Islamic Spain was economic succes where religions of all kinds lived rather peaceful among each other. It all changed when the Catholics took over. They ransacked the entire country and gave people the option to either convert, flee or die. (the inquisition) That's why Spain is so utterly Catholic today, unlike Syria with all it's Christians. That does say it all how Christians see non Christians and how Muslims see non Muslims. You're just lying when you claim it's the other way around.

And Christianity spread across the globe through violence. It is the most wide spread religion. And violence was the way they achieved it. From the murdering out the Aztecs to slaving around the Africans, to violently oppress South East Asia. It's all part of the believe that white people were made in the image of God, and not the non white who supposedly were more like animals / monkeys. Even Obama got compared with a monkey. Go figure how deeply rooted it is.

 

Islam was spread by the sword.
Islam—Spread by the Sword? You Bet. - Erenow
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Not at all: The sword spread Islam. Under Islamic rule, the non-Muslim majorities of those regions were gradually whittled down to the tiny minorities they ...

 

Libanon, Syria and Iraq got quiet a Christian minority living in it. And they had lots of Jews before Israel made it it's policy to drag in as many Jews as possible to their self proclaimed homeland of the Jew. France giving the Jews the French nationality prior to losing their colonies also had a massive impact. So all in all, "minorities" were all over the place living among a majority of Muslims for over a 1000's years. It mostly ended only in the last 50 years due to the things I mentioned earlier.

So that gradually whittled down the minorities is just nonsense.

While the spread of Christianity was done by the sword.


The pilgrim fathers also left for a reason.




And the Jews themselves ethnically cleansed +700,000 Arab Muslims. Israel -if it would finally comply with international law- would have a majority of Muslims if they and their descendants returned home. And the ethnic cleansing was wildly supported by the Christian community who send their Jews out to do that ethnic cleansing. Gave weapons worth billions. They still do. Hence that the Jew is expanding beyond it's border "by the sword" like a ISIS terror squad.

 

No one denies extremism and intolerance by all religions at one time or another. This includes Islam. You can't escape this by denial and anti-Semitism.
The Roots of Muslim Rage
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by B LEWIS · Cited by 153 — The Roots of Muslim Rage. Lewis, Bernard. The Atlantic; Sep 1990; 266, 3; ABI/INFORM Global pg. 47. Page 2. Reproduced with permission of the

 

There are different levels of intolerance by religion. And in general back in the day... the Muslims were far more tolerant towards others compared to Christians of the day. It is so, because all of Europe had countless of religious wars eradicating minorities left and right by the sword. It went on and on until the Germans stopped gassing the Jew. While the Jew themselves went on fast religious conquest in 1948, and are still busy with it. This is a fact, and you're conceding to it by ignorantly calling this "anti-semitism".

In no way did the Muslims go this far. Not back in the day, when they accepted Jews who fled for their lives out of Europe. You could say "but what about ISIS?" And indeed, what about it? ISIS spawned thanks to Judeo/Christian dominated US, and was destroyed by the Muslims themselves. This is where Muslims stand today. While Jews are not stopping their religious conquest in the West Bank, supported by billions of bucks donated by Christians.

B. Lewis was a Muslim hating Jew, who never lived among the Muslims and so has no knowledge of them. Just his bias. He was raised up in a world where his country oppressed most of the world with brute force and it was found to be normal. Muslims were among the victims. And in that light of colonial background, he denied the genocide of the Armenians. And it's not just me who accuses him of having this racist imperialist view.

 

No, they were not.
And your anti-Semitic slander against Lewis is beneath contempt.

 

I argued how it is. And you are conceding to this if you do not got an argument against this.

All you're good for is racist personal attacks, while drag in a racist out of the UK's colonial era to "prove" your point.
Which is even odder then it seems..... since we're not discussing race, but religion.
While Arabs are Semites too.

 

The aftermath of the fall of Constantinople is but one example of many.
There's nothing racist about the scholarship of Bernard Lewis.

 

The soldiers were paid with 3 days of raping and looting. And then the Sultan took over and appointed a new head of the Orthodox church for the city.
Yeah... that is showing me how this was religious conquest by the sword.

Go tell that to the victims of the Arminian genocide.

 

Yes, Constantinople was an example of conversion by the sword. Much happened after those three days, and centuries of capture, execution and enslavement in the Balkans followed.
Regardless of what one thinks of the evidence for and against Lewis regarding Armenians, the episode actually works against the accusation of racism.

 

The sultan appointed a new head to lead the Orthodox church in Constantinopel.
So there was no conversion by the sword at all. Unlike what the Catholics did.

 

Except the church became an arm of the Ottoman state and non-Muslims labored under severe civil disabilities. Young men were regularly taken from their families to be converted and enrolled in the Ottoman army.
Meanwhile, in the Balkan frontier areas, raids, executions, rape and enslavement were the order of the day.

 

So what. People were allowed to be part of that church. He also established a Rabbinate in Constantinopel for his Jewish subjects.
Your idea's of converting by the sword are simply not true.

Only from high end nobel classes. Your idea of conquest by the sword is still ridiculous.
Nothing remotely like the inquisition was going on.

 

Young men were taken by the tens of thousands at a time.

 

thoughts and prayers for both groups, I hope their God gets the message and helps the victims next time, be it a church, a mosque, a nightclub or a school

The right loves to hate on Jews and Muslims, while always rushing to be the apologists for Christians.

FYI : Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the exact same middle eastern God

 

source it

 

Ottoman soldiers would take European Christian males, aged 8 to 20, from Eastern, Southern and Southeastern Europe, and relocate them to Istanbul, where they would be trained. The fact that many were taken forcibly from their parents has been the subject of criticism.

Devshirme - Wikipedia
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Slavery in the Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia
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Slavery in the Ottoman Empire was a legal and significant part of the Ottoman Empire's economy and traditional society. ... The main sources of slaves were wars ...
Forced conversion - Wikipedia

 

You said "Young men were taken by the tens of thousands at a time."
No number is mentioned in that source.
Even worse. it states it was only in place for 54 years.

So how are you going to argue Muslims did "conversion by the sword"
I never stated it did not happen. I stated that it did not happen like how the Christians did it.
And if these 54 years out of over a 1000 is the best you can come up with....

well well.

We were talking about conversion by the sword.

 

The case has been proved.

 

I'm not seeing you prove that young men were taken by the 10.000's.

While you did prove this system of semi (semi, since you also sourced this happened voluntary) forced conversion happened for only 54 years.
You know very well that 54 years on a total of well over a 1000 years is not really worth mentioning compared to how the Christians were at it.

 

Mass abduction and enslavement went on for centuries in the Balkan frontier territories. Please see Danubia by Simon Winder.