‘I’m targeted by the Israeli army,’ Razan al-Najjar said before she was killed

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  1. GoogleMurrayBookchin

    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    can you stop saying complete brainlet things and just answer me
     
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    I have already said in another thread or maybe earlier on in this one that the Palestinian Health authority said she was shot in the neck and your attempts to try and suggest it was not the IDF are disgusting attempts to blame the innocent. The IDF already admitted it.

    There is though some good news to try to stop more victims of Israel violence

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...sraeli-officials-for-human-rights-violations/

    Now lets hope they really do something and lets hope the next UK election sees Corbyn in then we can stop supporting all this brutality.
     
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    You are incorrect. They rush their children to shelter at the first sign of danger.
     
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    I thought so too. Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
     
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    The IDF initially admitted it shot al dura before investigations found the IDF COULD NOT PHYSICALLY HAVE shot him.

    Investigations here will likely show the same. That hamas is not allowing a funeral for this woman is evidence this whole event, as is typical of such filth terrorist groups - is a complete sham.

    Will they also be funding the prosecution of the arabs who go on stabbing and car-based attacks, or is this a typical fraud where only jews can be targeted?

    Just what the world needs, another far left piece of sh-t who probably wouldn't last 2 years in office.
     
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    I don't think she's alive, but I don't think IDF shot her.

    I'm quite sure she was murdered. I'm not sure she was wearing the uniform when she died. The contradictory reports coming out of Gaza regarding the manner of her death, and the efforts made to manipulate evidence to match different versions of the story, prove that the official story is a lie and her death is used for propaganda purposes.

    A quick tour on mainstream media and Twitter will tell you she was shot in the chest with no exit hole, in the chest with exit hole, in the back, in the neck, in the belly, while (supposedly) her blood stained uniform features no exit hole in one photo and a big exit hole in other photo. How can anyone with half a functioning neuron believe anything coming out of Gaza regarding the young woman's death is beyond my limited cognitive skill.
     
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    well you clearly do not know what we are talking about. This young medic was a women.

    The IDF would not even take responsibility if as you claim they are now denying what they did. Oh no, despite having it on twitter that they knew where each bullet went, they did not mean to shoot this medic they claimed. At this time they are admitting that their bullet killed her but claiming an accident. At this time they also removed from twitter their message that every bullet was deliberate and they knew who they were shooting.

    Then they went onto producing fake videos of her and now you claim they are claiming they were nowhere near the bullet with their name on it which killed her.

    The IDF is without question one of the most dishonest organisations around. You can see above their dishonesty, first claiming it was an accident and with that removing the bit of paper which said each killing was deliberate, then making false videos to try to besmirch her memory - taking her life not being enough for them. now you are saying the cowards are even denying killing her.

    So usual. This is the same IDF who claimed that a rubber bullet with steel insert fired at close range to a teenagers head which resulted in him having to have half his skull removed was a lie and he had instead fallen of his bike,,,regardless of the reality that the CT scan proved the lie they were blatantly giving.

    This is the same IDF which put up its first call to the MM which I heard and then a few minutes later removed it and put up one pretending they were saying antisemetic things presumably in order to justify the massacre they had planned.

    Investigations by the IDF took a couple of hours. No one believes them. But possibly the investigation which the UN has done will confirm this.

    Don't be ridiculous. She has already been buried and half of Gaza came to see her off.

    I am sure the Nazis spoke of the Jews in just the same manner. She was a medic not filth and not a terrorist.

    Well given that Israel kills about ten times as many arabs claiming they had a knife than have ever tried to kill an Israeli Jew, that might be another killing that needs looked into Israel does. Israel does not live up to acceptable standards. She kills people because they are not Jewish Israelis. She shoots them in the back. She shoots them when they are on the ground already shot. She refused to allow medical help to them until they look dead and all this is against the law and used to be even against Israeli law. Israeli law did not have the right to shoot people who were no threat. I imagine the Knesset has changed that because your Supreme Court declared that Israel had the right to shoot dead and deliberately mutilate Palestinians when they were no threat to her. Of course getting control of the courts is what a Fascist State always does. However does not stop you committing murder as far as International Law is concerned. You are also right that they should also be investigating the killing of Palestinians by Israelis by car. Did you ever see that car advert that Israel had to take down where they used the idea of killing Palestinian children with their cars to try and sell them - buy this car, great for killing Palestinians children. I understand they copied the Israelis. They even made a song up when they had had enough killing of their children and would let you now what it felt right - not that I approve of that. 2 wrongs to do make a right but you sure know how to push these people.


    where is your fantasy world taking you now?
     
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    The Ha'aretz version is not supported by any other source. It is contradicted by the video I posted earlier purportedly showing efforts to save al-Najjar's life. We can't see any injuries on the neck or the front of the upper body in the video.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-she-was-killed.534749/page-4#post-1069197574

    IDF didn't admit to killing her, they said they don't know what happened and will further investigate. It's right there in the same Ha'aretz article.
     
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    Whatever. You clearly have a conspiracy theory. I did a check on what you were saying and all the replies were that she was dead.

    Because of history I would not trust a word the IDF said and like it or not nor does anyone else. She has been buried and thousands attended her funeral if you believe she is alive you must believe that is a conspiracy too. How do you explain the day which RiaRaeb left a video about when 19 medics were hit one fatally. How can you hit 19 medics accidentally - if that Canadian Dr is the guy I watched before, he got shot in both legs. That day another medic was killed. The IDF have done it before. Everyone else believes they did it. I am not interested in you getting into these conspiracy theories though I can imagine Israelis are up to them. 19 medics including one killing in one day does not say that Israel does not hit medics so I am not interested in these conspiracy theories.

    By the way I missed your other post - or I noticed it once and went looking for it but could not find it. Not in the mood now.
     
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    Quite so.
     
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    Just did. Illiberals have no interest in the truth. They only promote their ideology. Your post illustrates that exactly.
     
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    The simple answer is that some Zionists are in denial over this murder,

    Another yet claimed that the entire story of Razan was fabricated, that they put a paramedic’s uniform on her body only after she died. No amount of photos showing Najjar treating wounded protesters over the past month could convince him. Palestinians, to him, are liars by definition.

    Taken together, the responses reflected the depressing fact that for most of the Israeli public, Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers are guilty by default. The identity of the deceased or the circumstances of the killing are irrelevant. Many of the commenters who responded to my post made the effort to stress that they were were not right-wingers. One even identified as a supporter of Meretz, the dovish left-wing party.

    I gave up on the conversation because it was too frustrating and instead continued to look for interviews conducted with Razan. There are quite a few online. The young medic, it seems, was of significant interest to numerous international media outlets. In one of the interviews, Razan says:
    https://972mag.com/in-memory-of-razan-al-najjar/135910/

    Anything from she was murdered and then had her uniform put on to her to she was acting as a human shield, anything rather than accept that a Jewish Soldier killed her. Of course the fact that countless news agencies around the world reported that the IDF did not kill her deliberately will not convince some that the IDF it self admitted to having shot her. Discussing whether the bullet entered her neck, how much blood was on the uniform, whether there was a bullet whole in the back of her tunic or not helps them as they desperately try to focus on anything but the simple fact she was shot by an Israeli sniper.

    Well here are the facts that Pisa does not want to except.

    The IDF accepted they had shot her, they claim they did not do so deliberately.
    There is no border between Israel and Gaza, Gaza is occupied by Israel under international law.
    Israel is responsible for the people in the Occupied Territories under international law.

    No one should be fooled by the smokescreen that apologists for the Jewish State are trying to create.
     
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    Poor grenade throwing, human shield be serving angel, was shot unintentionally. You be human shield, **** is bound to come your way.
     
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    is it not true that the IDF constantly murders people and justifies it because the victims are palestinian?
     
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    Enjoy your denial, if that is your only comfort cling too it.
     
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    No they do not even do that, they try to take away the identity of Palestinians and they become the amorphous "arabs" or "muslims"! You are giving them too much credit!
     
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    There you go again.
     
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    Denial? My only? Comfort? My friend, yours truly is happy as a clown, typing away in halftime England- Tunisia game... live.

    Game on! Enjoy it on TV, and may Tunisia score again :nana:
     
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    Please use the quote function as per forum rules, thank you.
     
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    Wrong shaped balls! Us Welshman had our night Saturday against Argentina!
     
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    No, I claim that the IDF killed her, the simple reason being they admitted it!
    I make no claim as to why she in particular was killed, another of your made up claims.

    Yes that is how the justice system works in the UK, if the British Army say they shot someone, it is accepted they shot someone!
     
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    Is it not true that Palestinian mothers have many children to make sure Hamas have a constant supply of martyrs.? Is it not true that Palestinians love death more than they love life?
     
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    You’re right. One night is enough... let someone else win :)
     
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    No that is Hasbara. I think it comes from the idea of Ben Gurion that he would rather let children die than not go to Palestine.

    If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half by transporting to Eretz Yisrael [the Land of Israel], then I would opt for the second alternative. For we must weigh not only the life of these children, but also the history of the People of Israel.
     
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    Let this thought warm you at night... off to catch a flight to Moscow. Good, boring game.
     

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