‘I’m targeted by the Israeli army,’ Razan al-Najjar said before she was killed

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's football, it is always boring, safe flight Dutch.
     
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    I've noticed you don't have a problem with the "half functioning neuron" part :mrgreen:

    And yes, cognitive skill is limited by its own nature. We don't - most probably never will - have complete knowledge, certainly not at individual level. Must keep this in mind at all times, but especially when sensitive issues such as wide-ranging accusations against millions are on display. And yet, there are people who think they can know what millions are thinking and doing, or thinking of doing. Creepier even, there are atheists who stick to the mythical divide between absolute good and absolute evil.

    This is an odd post. You're basically saying that the official narrative about al-Najjar must be true because people you don't like say it isn't.

    As are Zionists to you.

    Birds of a feather.

    What makes you think all Israeli soldiers are Jewish?

    IDF never admitted to having shot her.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-gazan-medic-shot-dead-last-week-was-not-deliberately-targeted/

    The IDF doesn't know how al-Najjar died. The journalist suppose she might have been killed by a stray bullet or a ricochet, but the IDF doesn't know for sure. They are still investigating.

    How can anyone tell who or what killed the young woman if there's no reliable information about the manner of her death?
    Facts trump beliefs, it's as simple as that.

    Facts? Prove these are facts. Merely claiming something - generous amounts of bold letters notwithstanding - doesn't a fact make, you know.

    IDF did not accept they had shot her. Don't conflate IDF statements with journalists' opinions.

    Define "occupied". Link to the text of the international law according to which Gaza is occupied by Israel.

    Define "Occupied Territories". Prove Gaza is an "Occupied Territory".

    Link to the text of the international law according to which an occupying power has to open its borders to the inhabitants of the occupied territory. Or link to the text of the international law according to which there are no recognized borders between an occupying power and the occupied territory.

    I'm not dealing with opinions where so serious accusations are involved, no matter how seductive can the emotions induced by a righteous attitude be. I'm dealing with facts. Bring me reliable, verifiable facts.
     
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    The reality is Pisa that yes, you are right everyone believed that at first the IDF were taking responsibility. I saw or heard nothing to make me think that was not their position. Just that it was an apparent accident.

    and from my position when that is added to by a video being made which deliberately produces an untrue presentation of her and with claims from the IDF that she was no angel, that sounds like them trying to make excuses and makes them sound definitely guilty. If they had not killed her, there is no rational reason for them to want to produce a false image of her.
     
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    So was the hamas "press" officer until he was exposed.

    So were the hamas fighters using ambulences to move around until they were exposed.

    This is a scumbag terrorist group, this is what they do. hamas' charter calls for the mass murder of all jews worldwide.

    That you accept their word over a modern, accountable military says more about you than I ever could.

    They are admitting nothing of the kind, and you have no proof they did it. Show us proof, if you have any or can.

    That you think so says more about you than I ever could.

    Prove she was killed by the IDF.

    Had you been around then you'd have accepted the word of the 1940s version of hamas and defend them then, just as you do now.

    Prove it.

    The allies in WW2 killed far more germans, are you claiming the germans were the good guys?

    Yet 20% of the country is arab muslim, who prefer living there to any of the 22 arab muslim states in the mideast. What does that tell you about the arab nations?

    Very far from people who think like you do, or the hamas filth you defend.
     
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    I couldn't care less about this incident, <Mod Edit>

    I am FAR more concerned about hamas, who fired a rocket that hit a kindergarten school a week or so ago.

    I am FAR more concerned with the arab muslim terrorist groups like this, just recently caught prior to a massive bombing campaign in Israel:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/shin-...as-cell-planning-jerusalem-tel-aviv-bombings/

    And I am FAR more concerned with the hamas animals sending thousands of firebombs over an internationally recognized border, starting fires which could get many people killed.

    Notice how the hamas filth does not send those kites/bombs over the egyptian border? Because egypt would shoot each and every one of them outright.

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/we-arabs-are-damn-lucky-that-jews-do-not-behave-like-arabs/
     
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  6. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://972mag.com/activists-bring-images-of-gaza-dead-to-the-heart-of-tel-aviv/136270/

    I begin to feel concerned for Israelis like these but like to remember they are there.
     
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    It seems to me you've shown up at around exactly the same time Israel lost control of the narrative and hence their murderous ways have become more widely appreciated by many who usually wouldn't be paying much attention.

    Coincidence, perhaps.

    Now don't forget to whine to the mods because I chopped your post up to respond only to this part and remember to associate Hamas with me no matter how convolutedly inept that attempt will surely be.
     
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    Israel has not controlled the narrative since I can remember. The US is one of the few standing with Israel and our media is heavily slanted against them. They are expecting me to have sympathy for those killed by the IDF while they indiscriminately fire rockets from populated areas. Its like they push a child into the street and blame the driver.

    If anyone really cared about the Palestinian people, there would at least be a discussion on how to improve their lives. Unfortunately, that would reduce their willingness to be used as expendable pawns against Israel, so no one is even discussing it. Not a single post on the subject.
     
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  9. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zata boy! :applause:
     
  10. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You laugh all you want Dutch. It seems to be all you can do. Israeli is now hoping to pass a law allowing her to put in prison anyone documenting or taking photos of her soldiers acting improperly. They have already been told by the Supreme court that this is against the Constitution but the still intend on having a vote and presumably if successful implementing it.

    Obviously in such situation 'the left' become very threatened and Israel has been showing signs of this for years.

    I have repeatedly said that I respect Israelis who work for justice. Nothing new there. Obviously my concern is more for them given that the fascist nature of Israel is becoming more and more dominant.

    The Christian Right especially those working to have the Palestinians destroyed before they destroy almost all Jews would not like anyone supporting people in Israel with empathy and a conscience I know that so get that mirror and laugh at yourself. You watching the world cup by yourself? thought so.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can, and do lot more than just laugh, alexa. I give to several Israeli charities, just like you give to Palestinian charities, I’m sure.
     
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    Jew haters this, anti-semite that, blah blah blah, the same old tired worn out pathetic accusations. Disgusting,
     
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    Do you ever tire of using the same old pathetic rhetoric, jew hate this, jew hater that , blah blah blah. Same old tired worn out overused useless drivel
     
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    Why not start a thread on Hamas, problem is that I doubt anyone on this forum supports Hamas, this thread is about the IDF filth who killed the young female medic.
     
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    Spot on , spamming the thread with posts that have nothing to do with the death of the medic, accusing everyone of Jew hate and defending the IDF filth with various falsehoods.
     
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    "Give them their land back you thieving Israeli ****s" is hardly much of a topic.
     
  18. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aw.... finally, some HARSH LANGUAGE!!! You tell them!!! That ought to make Israelis quake in their boots!!! :hiding:
     
  19. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Such eloquent, poetic delivery... more, more... :applause:
     
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    Swede Hansen Banned at Members Request

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    I watched Mexico-Germany game on the tube...it was a fabulous win for Mexico!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey, did you see me rooting for Germans? I was the one wildly waving into the camera :)
     

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