‘I, I, I Don’t Know’: Anderson Cooper Stumps Kamala Harris With A Single, Simple Question

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, and Biden was going after a corrupt prosecutor ....every reasonable person acknowledges that's a good thing... why do you support corrupt prosecutors?

    that is the point, both Trump and Biden can not be blamed for their children taking advantage of the situation, but we can say it was unethical for the children to do so

    neither Trump not Biden is in any legal trouble for their children profiting off the their fathers positions, maybe we should make it against the law though
     
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  2. struth

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    It amazes me how low informed the Shifty sheep are...https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

    "A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation"
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fake news, the cult of Trump will believe anything, but regardless that is not what Trump was asking Ukraine to investigate, it was the dnc server and Biden.. his political rivals, Trump was trying to use a foreign government to influence the 2020 election - Trump's own intelligence agencies have already investigated this nonsense and said there is no there there
     
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    Her established business which sells products in China and she applied for the patent projections anyone selling such items applies for just as foreigners bringing products to the US apply for such product protection.

    Not even close.

    For Trump not as a public official and they are all involved in established DOMESTIC businesses.

    Did the Kennedy family sell it's liquor business or put it in a blind trust? Did the first five Presidents sell their plantations and stop selling their agriculture products to foreign governments? Did Obama stop selling his books? And what happened to the Carter peanut farm when he put it into a blind trust?
     
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    lol, sure, it had nothing to do with her father being President and treating China the way he has

    but like I said, Trump broke no laws there, nor did Biden, but their children did benefit off their fathers positions

    did any of them have foreign governments giving those businesses money? if they did, people would of rightly so been concerned - this is why most would rather do blind Trusts to keep even the appearance of this abuse of power from happening

    if all of a sudden China was buying millions of dollar of Peanuts from Carter after Carter started a trade war, yes, people would think it was cause of Carter's actions

    like Carter though, Trump will be a one term President
     
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    If he was corrupt why isn't he locked up or charged with anything?

    There was nothing unethical about Ivanka submitting trademarks and patents years ago, and getting them approved...she was doing business there before the President took office
     
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    Yes it was....and there is nothing fake about Ukraine has admitted it happened. The DNC happens to be a political party, just as the RNC was of Obama....and Obama conducted an investigation as well.
     
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    so you attack Biden's children from profiting off their fathers position - but excuse the Trump children for doing the same?

    Ivanka only got the patents after her father punished China via the trade war
     
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    Obama did no such thing, unlike Trump he did not personally try to influence other countries to meddle in our elections to help him win

    Trump DOJ is investigating the DNC as well, that is allowed if suspected wrong doing, Trump is asking a foreign government to investigate his political rivals while holding up money, that is not allowed
     
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    The trump kids didn’t make a profit.

    I have no problem with Biden getting a good job because of his father. I do have a problem with his father black mailing a country to fire the guy investigating the corruption at his son’s Ukrainian company
     
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    Trump asked Ukraine to share the information they had involving the collusion between the dnc and their country
     
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    It had to do with normal business applying for patent protection is routine. The Chinese did not pay her to do so.

    Hunter Biden recieved payments a salary, none of the Trump family has they merely did as any business does on a routine basis.
    Your desperate attempt to conflagration them is laughable at best.

    I asked you did the Kennedy family divest itself of all it's businesses or put them into blind trust?

    I asked you what happened to the Carter peanut farm while it was in that blind trust?
     
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    Trump and his family are profiting from foreign governments

    Bieden's son profited from foreign governments

    Bieden himself did not, Trump is - that is an issue

    both of the children would not of made the profits they have but for the positions of their father

    i answered you.... you just did not like the answer
     
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    no, he asked them to do a fake investigation to effect the 2020 election or he would not give them any money..... he was trying to buy an investigation from a foreign government into his political opponents with tax payer money - Sad <or sick guy>
     
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    Obama only campaigned in Germany and O'Rourke literally sent campaign flyers to Mexicans in Mexico.
     
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    not sure what your taking about, But Trump campaigns in every country he has been too, does that mean in your eyes Trump should not be President?

    Trump even supports Putin over the USA
     
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    No he wanted them to cooperate with an ongoing investigation into the Ukrainians colluding with the DNC to impact the 2016 election. This has already been established.

    He also wanted them to continue to work out the corruption in their own country...
     
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    there was no ongoing investigation, Trump was trying to start a fake investigation into his political opponents - Trump's people had already considered this to be bogus
     
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    um yeah the DOJ is currently doing such an investigation. There is nothing fake about foreign govts colluding with either party to interfere in our elections.

    Nope, nobody considered it bogus, as I already showed you....and Ukraine admitted it took place.
     
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    yes, Trump was colluding with Ukraine to get them to investigate his political rivals

    that DNC server conspiracy has already been disproved, and Trump asking them to investigate his political rival was why he is in hot water
     
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    That's true...he did ask them to aid in the investigation of how their former corrupt Govt colluded with the DNC. So in away you are right....but it doesn't matter, that's not a crime...the DNC isn't above the law
     
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    nope, he was blackmailing them to investigate his political rivals - that is not allowed

    it's a crime if anyone but the President does it, but the President can be impeached over it

    even most Republicans agree the President was wrong to do this
     
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    Yes, it appears Biden was blackmailing Ukraine....not about poltiical rivals but people that were paying him 50K/month

    The President can be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors. The President can't be impeached for working with foreign countries on corruption investigations.
     
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    From established businesses but I do think they have ended any foreign deals.

    He didn't profit he was paid a salary for doing nothing.

    We don't know if Daddy did or not but somehow he became a millionaire.

    Facts not in evidence I believe they all made money before their father became President and I know of none who are being paid a salary by foreign oligarch's or a foreign government or were simply handed a boatload of money.

    Not these

    I asked you did the Kennedy family divest itself of all it's businesses or put them into blind trust?

    I asked you what happened to the Carter peanut farm while it was in that blind trust?
     
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    did they invite foreign governments to stay at there locations for profit, did foreign governments give those businesses money

    had Trump not of allowed those things, it would not of mattered either

    most use blind trusts to prevent even the appearance of wrong doing
     
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