‘I now hate my ship’: Surveys reveal disastrous morale on cruiser Shiloh

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  1. Tim15856

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    I don't believe our wars to stop the spread of communism were wrong, but you can't win a war by being on the defense all the time and due to politics, not able to invade the enemies lands. You should not get bogged down with wars against nations full of tribal societies and expect to be able to play nice. That's why those countries had strong men. It takes a heavy hand to keep them from killing each other. We had no choice but to invade Afghanistan when they provided protection and material support to people who killed thousands of Americans. Sticking around for nation building was the problem. We should have kept an eye on them and if terrorists started to organize again, bomb them. I agree with you on Iraq and Syria, but the British were involved with them too. Globalist elitist's have taken over much of our countries.
     
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    Precisely, and the same with Iraq. And you're right, the Brits were also on the wrong side in Syria; I couldn't believe it when I heard Cameron say we should be supporting 'the rebels', who were actually disparate jihadist groups but he didn't have the wit to perceive it. Dumb and incompetent career politicians, and senior military 'yes men' hoping for elevation into the Establishment after retirement are responsible for it all, and 'the poor bloody infantry' did the suffering for their gross ineptness.
     
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  3. Destroyer of illusions

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    Perhaps soon you will learn all the "delights" of the civil war inside the United States. This will help you understand why no one in the world loves the United States. Music for you.

     
  4. Tim15856

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    I have no doubt there is a 2nd civil war coming, but why would that cause others to hate us?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow. Paranoid much or just vying for attention? Any sane person with an average or higher IQ can quickly backtrack the thread comments and see it's about the OP, not you. However, now that you finally got my attention, why didn't you post something about the topic in your post and not just this little drama queen bit?
     
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    Da, tovarish. Egg-cellent saying. Ha ha ha. Please tell me more of your favorite Russki sayings.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look let's get things into perspective instead of whingeing on and on about the choice of words of expressions - this is a messageboard and my comment was a post; it wasn't an effing treatise. But if it satisfies your small-minded ego I'll accept the criticism. Anything for a quiet life!
     
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    Yes, dear.
     
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    What it sounds to you is immaterial to reality.
     
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    ^ Fake News
     
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    To the Russian Pussycat:

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    The Soviet Union loved to brag, but the only thing they were good at was slaughtering the unarmed,

    Best of Luck
     
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    I would have used the bombed. Nuked Russian and North Vietnam into glass, and if possible, tried to make sure you were the first to go.

    To the Russian ***** Cat:

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    The Soviet Union loved to brag, but the only thing they were good at was slaughtering the unarmed,

    Best of Luck
     
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    I would have used the bombed. Nuked Russian and North Vietnam into glass, and if possible, tried to make sure you were the first to go.

    To the Russian ***** Cat:

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    The Soviet Union loved to brag, but the only thing they were good at was slaughtering the unarmed,

    The Reality:
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    The Soviets died of rot from within; so will Putin's Russian

    Because what Russia still does not understand:

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    Best of Luck
     
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    Of course not but that is not the point. The question is whether or not the issues on the Shiloh are systemic.
     
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    Vietnam was wrong and I do not know enough about the Korean war to comment. Other than that we have not fought any actual wars to stop communism.

    We have however supported a whole lot of genocidal and death squad dictators to put own popular social movements based on a convoluted "communism false narrative".
     
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    Well, read your history and learn. Just as Aaron Rodgers can't throw a touchdown bomb with a broken right shoulder, America's military can't win wars when the politicians are more interested in nation building.
    America has the military might to defeat two-bit Islamic tyrants, and puny little Korean dictators and to believe otherwise is to confess to ignorance.

    In any event, best of luck

    Ayn Rand: "When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; if I am right, he will learn; if I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but both will profit." Ayn Rand --http://www.great-quotes.com/quotes/...d=39386&type=document&data=like&increment=293
     
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    Not likely. The relationship between command and the ships company varies from ship to ship even when they are involved in the same duties. That is what determines morale on board.
     
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    I was referring to the disrepair issues rather than the relationship between crew and captain.
     
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    What is systemic is the internal rot and corruption of the Russian political and military systems.
     
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    That's your entire (small and insignificant) fleet. Worry about yourself there, Boris.
     
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    That may well be true but, this has nothing to do with the US military.
     
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    Have no idea how it got posted three times, but I gotta admit, I loved them all, being that I am one selfish prick.
     
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    Because the crazy in the white house and the Pentagon are chaos in sovereign countries for the benefit of oligarchs and transnational corporations? For example, why did the US invade Iraq and kill the lawfully elected president of the country? Why did they kill Gaddafi? Why did they create Al Qaeda and ISIS? and so on.
    Or do you think people will be grateful for that?
     
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    In addition to the drawings, do you have any arguments? I wonder why you did not draw the Martians? :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    For example, I do not have to draw to show evidence of the crimes of the American government.

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    Meanness is a national trait of Americans?
     
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    We learned meanness from the Russians.
     

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