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Oh stop with the mythology.

 

Greek civilization is one of the oldest in the world. And Grechian scientists and philosophers gave impetus to the development of European civilization. Plato is a great historian and philosopher. This is not a myth. Myth - is American power. This is a real myth.

 

Oh stop embarrassing yourself Troll.

 

If you remember when Western Civilization began to be removed from the curriculum of universities, it was the beginning of a continuing attempt to eradicate what was handed down to us as the best aggregate of Greek, Roman, Hebrew, and Christian civilization.

For having almost no technology whatever to gather data and measure with, e.g. Democritus, the learned Greeks were absolutely amazing.

 

At the heart of every myth are historical events. But this is probably difficult for your understanding.

 

Awww, comrade, why are you so nasty and demeaning? Did I hit a nerve? You're the one claiming Hyperborea is your Mother Russia, not Plato. Prove your claim or be honest enough to admit your love for Russia and hatred for the United States of America.

 

The comrades in Russia and the US both believe in myth and in their delusions.

 

LOL. Agreed there are delusional people on both sides of the equation.

 

Correct about the heart of myths, but you have failed to prove it was your Mother Russia. The fact remains no one knows if it factually exists or not and, if factually, where it's located. For you to claim it's Russia is pure BS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea#Location_of_Hyperborea
Location of Hyperborea[edit]
The Hyperboreans were believed to live beyond the snowy Riphean Mountains.

According to Pausanias: "The land of the Hyperboreans, men living beyond the home of Boreas."[7]

Homer placed Boreas in Thrace, and therefore Hyperborea was in his opinion north of Thrace, in Dacia.[8]

Sophocles (Antigone, 980–987), Aeschylus (Agamemnon, 193; 651), Simonides of Ceos (Schol. on Apollonius Rhodius, 1. 121) and Callimachus (Delian, [IV] 65) also placed Boreas in Thrace.[9] Other ancient writers however believed the home of Boreas or the Riphean Mountains were in a different location. For example, Hecataeus of Miletus believed that the Riphean Mountains were adjacent to the Black Sea.[8] Alternatively Pindar placed the home of Boreas, the Riphean Mountains and Hyperborea all near the Danube.[10] Heraclides Ponticus and Antimachus in contrast identified the Riphean Mountains with the Alps, and the Hyperboreans as a Celtic tribe (perhaps the Helvetii) who lived just beyond them.[11]Aristotle placed the Riphean mountains on the borders of Scythia, and Hyperborea further north.[12] Hecataeus of Abdera and others believed Hyperborea was Britain (see below).

Later Roman and Greek sources continued to change the location of the Riphean mountains, the home of Boreas, as well as Hyperborea, supposedly located beyond them. However all these sources agreed these were all in the far north of Greece or southern Europe.[13] The ancient grammarian Simmias of Rhodes in the 3rd century BC connected the Hyperboreans to the Massagetae[14] and Posidonius in the 1st century BC to the Western Celts, but Pomponius Mela placed them even further north in the vicinity of the Arctic.[15]

In maps based on reference points and descriptions given by Strabo,[16] Hyperborea, shown variously as a peninsula or island, is located beyond what is now France, and stretches further north-south than east-west.[17] Other descriptions put it in the general area of the Ural Mountains.

 

All questions to Plato.

 

Aristotle was much more precise in the use of language than Plato, and less speculative. Aristotle used lengthy sentences, making a considerable effort not to be misinterpreted; he looked forward into the minds of weak readers and set up a firewall. But both were geniuses.

 

You're dodging, tovarish. You're the one who claimed it was Mother Russia, not Plato.

 

That you feel the need to use an ancient philosophers commentary on an Area that massively pre-dates Russia in order to promote the relatively newcomer civilization does not bode well for it's reputation or excellence.

 

I woudn't be making comments on the American Navy when the Russian navy can't put to sea on most days.

 

Your pirogues are not interesting

 

Actually the commentary is accurate and topical, you simply do not care to hear it. You seem to search for any possible problem in the United States military while purposefully ignoring the deficiencies in the Russian version. You are well known as a Russian basement jockey already but, you don't even care.

 

In other words I'm right.

 

Your government provokes this. If the crazy in the White House want to start a new, already nuclear, war - we must look at the American army with a sober glance, and not through the pink glasses of Hollywood.