‘Reparations Happy Hour’ Invites White People to Pay for Drinks

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  1. zbr6

    zbr6 Banned

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    I've never heard anyone deny slavery and if they did I'd laugh at them.

    But the "injustices" of today are largely manufactured and ones that are legitimate are isolated incidents not reflective of an entire country and everyone in it.
     
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    Nothing racist about it. Your perception is determined by a disconnect from reality. IMO.

    So, negate that white americans freed slaves. And you never see your crediting them for doing the right and moral thing. Instead you would rather ignore that, and dwell on the times when slavery was common, and had been common since the rise of civilization. I see more racism in you than the people you call racists.

    So, I could not give a rat's arse if you are an ingrate to the people who freed your own people. I am just stating an obvious fact. You don't like it? I could not care less about that either. But I have come to expect it.

    And you can also ignore the fact that africans sold other africans into slavery. Your own race sold your ancestors to slave traders. Do you rant against them, or just half of the equation?

    What matters is that whites abolished slavery and let your people go. But you never admit this, or even see it as a good thing about white people, for you prefer to recall that they enslaved your ancestors, and that is all that matters. Releasing them from slavery? Nope, don't matter at all.

    Well my ancestors owned yours. And I think it was wrong, horribly immoral, but I also consider the context. Slavery was the way the world was. But this looking backward which keeps many of your own people from moving forward is nonsense, and scapegoating. Give it up for god's sake. For you are not helping anything or anyone in this nonsense.
     
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    Reparations are more for guilt ridden white leftists so they can feel good about themselves than anything else.
    We fought the bloodiest war in this nation's history settling the issue of slavery forever, totally integrated our society and we've poured countless billions into social programs so blacks could advance and thrive in this country.

    There is no need for reparations, except as a political stunt.
     
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    No, no, no.......in the history of man only White people have been ruthless and mean. Blacks never harmed their ' brothas and sistas' back in Africa where they 'was Kangz and Kweens'. Even today they love 'their people':

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ed-and-raped-them-amnesty-international-says/
     
  5. One Mind

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    Look, americans got here in different ways. My settler ancestor came as an indentured servant in exchange for his passage to america and worked that off, being indebted to the man who paid his way here. And blacks came as slaves. And thanks to white people, who saw it as wrong, they abolished it and freed these slaves. Now, they were still treated like sh*t and discriminated against in parts of this nation for a long time after that, but they were no longer slaves. And that discrimination was immoral and wrong as well.

    No doubt that our black americans are better off in america than most africans in africa. Even our poor blacks are nothing like the poor in africa. And I know that if you offered an american black a trip back to their land of origin, you would not find any takers. And that speaks volumes and cuts through the BS really fast.

    None of this justifies slavery. But I never enslaved anyone, nor have I ever owned a slave, and no black american today has ever been a slave. But IMO, they use the past, slavery, as an excuse not to be responsible americans, taking charge of their own destinies, and blame everyone but themselves for their own lot in life. This lead nowhere folks. It is fact. It just hinders them. And until they get over it, we cannot expect much to change in their lives.
     
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    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can current black americans feel pain for what happened to their ancestors? I don't feel any pain for what happened to mine. Not actual pain. The ones killed in the revolutionary war, the civil war, ww1, ww2, who died perhaps horrible deaths. Do I feel pain for my ancestors who worked along side poor blacks in share cropping? Who had nothing, were dirt poor? And exploited by rich white people? Those hard times for my ancestors are not looked back upon in order to find an excuse for my family today. My ancestoral family used those hardships as a motivation to do better, to work hard, to be responsible human beings. To not have kids out of marriage and to not indulge in criminal behavior. If I or anyone else in my family looked backward to find an excuse for their current lot in life, we would be in poverty today. The past is dead and gone. Only we will not allow it to die, if it can serve us in some fashion today. That path leads nowhere folks.
     
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    The use the past jim crow laws as an excuse. And it's a valid excuse. Jim Crow laws only ended 20 years after WWII. The entire babyboom generation benefited from this first hand. And they are passing their social economic position to the next generation. It just is. And in this world the US created,... it's real hard when poor to crawl up on the ladder. It's not as if good education is free. Only crap education is free.

    And I dunno how you can deny this.
     
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    I don't think I ever denied it at all. Were the Jim Crow laws applicable all across america? Or just in particular geographic areas? So when so many southern blacks fled north and even west, did they encounter those laws a well?

    And I am curious, being a baby boomer, how did Jim Crow benefit me?

    You know, I personally witnessed many blacks here in my area climb out of poverty overnight and into the middle class. How? After the civil rights act and as factories here started hiring poor blacks along with poor whites. This was a major ladder up from abject poverty here in the south for blacks and I actually saw them move from worn out shacks, no plumbing, wood heat, into new brick homes with all of the modern comforts. And many of these hard working blacks were able to send their kids to college and into the middle class too. I saw this happen. But I also saw a welfare dependent black culture created, for if you did not marry, the more kids you had the bigger the welfare check. So, the blacks that were motivated excelled, and the ones who were not? They created the black culture of today. This is reality here in my own area.

    No one ever pulls himself up by playing the victim. I have seen this here where I live. But here is the bad news. The ladders up from poverty a major one has been sent to slave labor. A service sector economy is not a ladder up from poverty. For either blacks or whites.
     
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    I will, just after you and the others on here (they know who they are) show me absolute 100% proof that blacks were the only victims of slavery. I'll wait....
     
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    Indeed it was. And they went through with this even though it was illegal.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

    Many parents sponsor their children through high school and college.

    And while black people lived in shacks, white people lived in brick houses and moved further up from that starting point.
     
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    And blacks had OBAMA, and Clinton, who claimed he was "America's First Black President".

    As I said...WHERE DO I GET PAID??!!!
     
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    Here is an article about the Herndon House.......a brick mansion built by a wealthy black family in Atlanta circa 1910. Meanwhile, many of my White ancestors 'lived in shacks' at the time........so tell me your myth one more time as we gather round the campfire and sing kumbaya:

    https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/atlanta/her.htm
     
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    The propagandists would have you believe the entire nation was under Jim Crow law, and that's a lie and pure agitprop. Outside of the South Jim Crow did not exist. Maybe in Arkansas or Georgia. Not in Minnesota or Oregon.

    I remember growing up in the Bay Area and being specifically excluded from many state and federal jobs and educational programs due to my race. No whites need apply.

    You can't climb a ladder until you decide to grab a rung and pull yourself up.
    This "social economic" position that was "passed on"? Education and jobs are not family heirlooms. You aren't issued a free pass through life with your white DNA. Hard work and making an effort are part of a value system that many Americans, white, black and otherwise
    are indoctrinated with.

    Unfortunately the siren's song, sung by race hustlers and left wingers with a guilty conscience, says that as a minority you are owed.
    If you are a failure it's the system's fault and you are owed more. And, unfortunately again, it has become a self fulfilling prophecy in
    areas where the left has taken over (Chicago, Oakland, Detroit, Baltimore, etc.).

    One day the nation will look back at the horrors of the inner city and scarcely believe such places could exist in the 21st century.
    They are truly a creation of leftist governance.

    If you are black, get out by any means necessary and if you are white...stay away. Your very presence will invite danger and harm.
     
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    Paid for what ? You are at least even.
     
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    Your post attempts to exclusively tie welfare , public housing, and then benefits of being in prison to slavery of Blacks in the US. So I very logically challenged you to show that Blacks and only Blacks were the sole recipients of welfare, public housing, and prison benefits. You obviously cannot do that.

    You lose!
     
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    The guy said it well!
     
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    Quote where I said 'exclusively'. Since you're just making **** up, and also didn't address my slavery question, you lose.
     
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    Eh, making white people pay for drinks as reparations isn’t really all that cool an idea, mainly because im adverse to making anyone pay for someone else’s drinks.

    That being said a Coke and Jim Beam would be great about now.
     
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    I also saw poor whites who lived in shacks, myself included at one time, move up to the middle. I don't think you know much about the poor south in that era. At least the poor white south.

    Being a boomer, Uncle Sam sent me to college after Vietnam, my parents could not afford to. Lots of boomers just like me from the south. Probably the rule rather than the exception.

    But I am probably much older than you, and actually live this era. I experience it whereas you may just be reading about it. I recall when both blacks and whites were dirt poor, although you did see some whites in brick homes as you said. Brick homes arrived for the motivated blacks after the changes of the 60s. Good changes I might add. I supported them.
     
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    A wonderful idea! I think I'll get together with a bunch of my friends who are also of German descendants and we'll go out and run up a big bar tab -- and then have it sent to the Italian Embassy! Why? Because the Roman Empire invaded our ancient Germania homeland where they took our ancestors as slaves. Fair is fair... right?! :roflol:

    [​IMG]. "Hey, ya Wops! We want our reparations -- NOW!" :twisted:
     
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    And you think this reflex how things in general were?
    Geez.
     
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    I don't care about your alleged personal experiences. I do care how things in general were. And them Jim Crow laws pushed the entire black population into poverty. And I did source that this happened all over the country.
     
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    It was 'reflex' of the fact that lots of black folks in the South had more wealth than lots of my ancestors......but that doesn't fit the leftist 'victim' narrative.
     
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    You source how it was for one family. how they managed to live in a brick building.
    That's not proving anything how the entire south was like by a freaking long shot.
     
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    Well now.......it was apparently a longer shot for my relatives than the Herndon family and other black families. I wish my father were alive today so you could try and lecture him about 'White Privilege'........a man who had to leave home at 17 to work in Roosevelt's CCC building roads......so he could send his paltry pay back to the family to try and keep their home during the depression. A conversation that would have been better had from the distance and anonymity of the Internet.
     
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