‘Scratch a Liberal and You Will Find a Fascist Every Time’: Hollywood Icon James Woods Opens Up Abou

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  1. vman12

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    That explains a lot.
     
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    Then use your brain to read history of fascist governments. Hitler and Mussolini didn't collectivize production. In fact, both Hitler and Mussolini privatized businesses.

    One reason fascist economies recover more quickly when people overthrow totalitarian fascist governments is corporate structures are left intact. Socialists collectivize production, destroying the corporate structure and make it far more difficult to restore capitalism.
    He was a socialist who morphed into a fascist.

    "Italy’s first Fascist government applied a large-scale privatization policy between 1922 and 1925. The government privatized the state monopoly of match sale, eliminated the State monopoly on life insurances, sold most of the State-owned telephone networks and services to private firms, reprivatized the largest metal machinery producer, and awarded concessions to private firms to build and operate motorways. While ideological considerations may have had a certain influence, privatization was used mainly as a political tool to build confidence among industrialists and to increase support for the government and the Partito Nazionale Fascista. Privatization also contributed to balancing the budget, which was the core objective of Fascist economic policy in its first phase."

    https://cadmus.eui.eu/handle/1814/12319
    Where do you get these screwy ideas? Rightwing extremist media who want to convince you to ignore the danger of scum like the Proud Boys?
    The Orange Oaf you love just said we should suspend the Constitution. Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.
    Revolutionary socialists are guilty of much of what you're saying above, but I suspect you think that applies to Democrats. You're in good company with dimbulbs on the left who think Republicans are fascists.
    I taught economics and history for 30+ years. You don't have a clue.
     
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    These are simply lies, except for the part of your post that you ignored. I underlined it for you.

    Even your wikipedia that you worship disagrees with you:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism

    Hitler didn't privatize anything. Every business in Germany did what it was told by the Nazi party or it was shut down. Every business had Nazi party members watching it from the inside, just like China's communist party today.

    They both ostensibly allowed some private control both to gain support among the populace, as well as fill their coffers. They were concentrated on war, not commerce.

    Continue your bad take though, I find it amusing.
     
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    Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, Pinochet et al appealed to business for support to deal with revolutionary socialists either in power or threatening to take power.

    In the 1970s, we lived across street from a Jewish dairy farmer who escaped from Germany in 1939 (damn lucky to get out) and went to Chile. Allende nationalized his Chile dairy farm and he ended up leaving there, too. He showed us family pictures of his huge Chile operation.
    Revolutionary socialism is indeed totalitarian. So is fascism.
     
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    James Woods is blaming everyone else but himself for his acting demise. He is now a typecast actor on why did he not get the newer parts that go against his typecast of playing a slimy character. He has had some legal issues, mostly civil, and pretty much lost all of those. And if there is one that is for certain in Hollywood, it is Hollywood gossip galore.
     
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    KKK is not left-wing. Communism is extreme left wing authoritarianism on the political scale. Fascism is extreme right-wing authoritarianism on a political scale. KKK falls under the right wing extremism category.
     
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    Huh? I said fascists appealed to industrialists who feared revolutionary socialism.
    Apparently, you have no idea how uniformed you are.

    You either received a poor high school education or weren't paying attention and shouldn't have passed.
     
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    No, that's revolutionary socialism.
     
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    It's quite shocking how brainwashed some uninformed rightwingers have become.
     
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    I am simply amazed that someone like James Woods, loud and very smart (just ask him) has turned into such a whiny MAGAVictim, blaming everyone else for the end result of his own actions.
     
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    Even a source as bad as wikipedia proved you wrong.
     
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    All businesses were privatitized in Germany. What they did by the Nazis was two things: first in the beginning, made racial purity laws, blamed Jews for practically everything, and made laws that took away those properties and gave them to other private businesses. During the war, they basically only allowed those who are members of the Nazi party to do business with the government and everyone was a nationalist then, supporting the nationalist goals of the government. It was coerced, it was done willingly by the German people who were then fed lies by the Nazi government and the propaganda they instilled among the people. If you want to look at what propaganda does to a group of people, you can look no further than Nazi Germany or the Democratic Republic of North Korea as perfect examples. We call this psy warfare.
     
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    when your employer is known left-wing, spouting right-wing ideology is NOT a sign of intelligence
     
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    Democrats from the 1860s have no connection to Democrats in 2022.
    Nathan Bedford Forrest was a particularly vile racist who was given his freedom in 1865 in return for a promise not to attack the government of the United States. Can't say he was a coward, of course, because he had dozens of horses shot out from under him during the war.
    Now, we have Republicans who wanted to keep the Memphis statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest and Democrats wanting to remove it. Times change. Political parties change.
     
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    As I said, I can't imagine where you got so much misinformation.

    This country is really screwed up.
     
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    the irony is forum poster have access to the entire internet for information, much easier than say back in the 70s when i had to physically walk to a library, but apparently many would rather tune in a RW media source
     
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    You mean by taking it from where you took yours?

    Far right fascism doesn't even make sense for anybody that knows 2nd grade history.
     
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    Wikipedia is a RW media source?
     
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    Mussolini stopped being a socialist. Read the history. Dump the propaganda sources you rely upon.*

    * Assuming you're not deliberately misleading the forum.
     
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    What country are you from? I was born and raised in California.
    They don't teach political history in Grade 2.

    Seriously, I can't imagine how you became so misinformed. The cluelessness on the right these days makes me wonder if our schools aren't even worse than I judge them. To my fellow teachers who support the system--if people are this clueless after getting a high school diploma, we really need to go to vouchers. Government-run public schools have failed.
     
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    No, that's revolutionary socialism.
     
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    Step away from the bong
     
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    They were privatized as long as they did what the Nazi party required them to do.

    The Nazi party had their hands in every aspect of German life.

    You can look no further than democrat control over Twitter.
     
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    Oh look, another leftist that embarrassed themselves by proving they didn't even bother to find out if it was true or not.

    Spoiler: it was 100% true.
     
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    It is. And I wasn't the one teaching, was I?
     

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