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‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's looks like Trump's admin is taking a logical approach to answering the age old question of 'am I a boy or a girl?' And look at this, his folks are using SETTLED SCIENCE to make these determinations - now who in their right mind is going to question settled science?

    Hey leftists, you wanted government to make all the decisions in your lives, now consider it done.

     
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    When it comes to Trangender people I try to respect their body beliefs the same way I respect peoples religious beliefs. I find what the Trump admin is doing unnecessary divisive and mean spirited.

    A manufactured waste of time wedge issue, in other words. Though I would like to see an instance where how the Obama admin determined this had a detrimental impact on the organization. That may change my mind somewhat.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Sex and gender occur on a spectrum.
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Sex and gender are binary attributes and sex == gender in any case.
     
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  5. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you say it's mean, are you saying we should cast aside issues that science settled long ago and base our policies on feelings?
     
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    “The sex listed on a person’s birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a person’s sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence.”

    I don't see the problem here. A certified medical professional says whether you're male or female, and you can appeal their decision if you have evidence.

    Thats about as good as objective law can get.
     
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    No, I am saying what I had said.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    No and no.
     
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    Science says some are neither male nor female, or both, among many other spectrum placements.
     
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    This transgender issue makes things so confusing. If a woman becomes a man and as a man claims that he was sexually assaulted 40 years ago while he was still a she, does this person qualify for the "believe women" privilege as a former woman, or should he instead "shut up and step up" as per the dems' requirement for men...or both? :omfg:

    I hope a lib will chip in and clarify, unless his/her head explodes... my definitely would if i had all this contradictory nonsense in my head lol
     
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    beep bloop
     
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    I don't see anything wrong with this, its just clarification.

    After all, how will you know what prison to put people if they can claim to be whatever they want?
     
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    What happens when the GlobalistMarxistHumanistProgressiveSJW set manage to make individual quirks, fetishes, personality disorders, etc, qualify one for Protected Group™ status?

    just spitballing here, but wouldn't that sort of diminish the meaning of "legitimate" Protected Groups™?
     
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    A spectrum?? So you are saying that there are 70, or 60, or 81% men or women ? So can a 69% woman get pregnant? Can a 19% man father a child?

    If a 50% man and a 50% woman have sex which one will get pregnant? The man, the woman, or both?
     
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    Great!!! Just great!! Now white males have no chance being a legally protected class. We were only a dress and a restroom away! Thanks Trump!

    I do like the example of giving the gov power over our decisions. The real challenge is opposing government power even when we agree with what they are doing.
     
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    So should we just ignore interested people? What about people with a single chromosome? Triple chromosomes? XXYY?

    Some of the above are infertile - others are not. But they are a minority so we should just ignore them and move forward with the blatant bigot agenda...
     
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    It’s not clarification - it’s sheer bigotry that ignores science.
     
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    So more gubment good. When it pushes your ageanda... got it.
     
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    All he's doing is going back to the way it was before the Obama administration, who got slapped down in the courts (again) over this issue, rewrote science.
     
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    Yeah, all those other chromosomes that determine biology create a huge range of possibilities.
     
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    Don't worry, we'll take care of the .05% of the population that affects.
     
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    Almost 2% actually — 6.5 million American citizens — but I know how y’all love to marginalize groups by reducing their numbers. How do we “take care of them” after this edict from our emperor?
     
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    What is bigoted by what I said?
     
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    Not a lib, but I'm sure that bridge can be crossed - illuminated with tiki torches - if we ever come to it. :)
     
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    Good to see the quality of your posts improving. :)
     
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