‘Why why why?!’ Trump fans melt down after Bill Barr says he doesn’t expect Obama will face criminal

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  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    WTF are you talking about? Did you watch the video? What I said happened did but to answer you, no, I don't trust any of those agencies. I'm a sheep not a good little soldier.
     
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    You don’t trust your defense and intel departments ? Then who do you trust, Faux News ? Let see, the right doesn’t trust every university in the world, all the intel agencies, our defense department, every dedicated research facility and scientist in general....the ligit ones all belong to one of those institutions.
    Where do you get your trusted info ?
     
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    No, I’m not watching any video for anything but humor. Ligit information comes from the postingS of ligit institutions.
    Among them are the science based including the DOD, intel agencies, NASA, universities, official fed and state agencies. Etc.
    It doesn’t come from right wing wack jobs.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What about all those informants you were bragging about .. guess they are not so "informed" after all if they do not know who Trump's Sugar Daddy is.

    I will give you another clue - since your informants are apparently without. It's not Putin !?
     
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    I saw all that. Not relevant.
     
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    In general - no - demonstrable liars and creators of propaganda some of these agencies are Where have you been over the last few decades.

    but we do not need to go through other examples. New evidence how shows that despite the initial lie (all intelligence agencies concur) - turns our the hand picked members from the 3 agencies that did work on this (or at least the representatives for those agencies) - did not know if was the Russians. They basically conclude that a State Actor is suspected - but the Russian's are not the only nation out there spying on the Internet.

    Declassified transcripts: CrowdStrike couldn't say for sure Russians stole DNC emails
    https://justthenews.com/government/...-crowdstrike-unsure-if-fbi-confirmed-russians
     
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    That’s fine. There is nothing more to say.
     
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    Well then...……………… what more can I say?
     
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    I certainly do not imagine that "Foreigners, Women, Socialist, [or] Gays" (caps in original) are ruining my life. (Liberals doubtless would--if they were to seize power in the Senate and the White House, to go with their majority in the House of Representatives.)

    There is an old saying: Conservatives (and that typically means Republicans) believe that liberals are wrong; whereas liberals (usually, Democrats) believe that conservatives are evil.

    Therefore, liberals simply cannot debate conservatives, without casting moral aspersions against them...
     
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    Well, I really do not think that I "[d]epend...upon the government." (I do receive a monthly Social Security check; but it is direct deposited into savings--I do not live on it.)

    And I do not have Medicare. (Instead, I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield.)

    It is a sure indication that someone knows that he has lost the argument, when he must resort to insults ("Faux News"), rather than debate the issue at hand...

    I really do not know why you would describe my Blue Cross/Blue Shield as "bogus health insurance." (It is a PPO--which means, essentially, that it drastically cuts the "Submitted Charges," and instead gives me a negotiated charge--which is just a fraction of the former. And then it pays 85 percent of that.)
     
  12. Jacob E Mack

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    Both left and right get muppetty... but the far-right in podt modern America does far more damage.
     
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    let’s get real now. Either you use it as a supplement or you’re insured totally by BCBS ? ....are you under 65 and taking early retirement ? Because, SS determines your eligibility for Medicare. If you are over 65 and still insured by BCBS totally, someone is paying three times as much as they should or I’m getting my leg pulled. You’re not making sense or hiding something. I don’t care. But pretending a BCBS is a better deal then Medicare when you qualify for it, isn’t reality.

    Faux News is exactly that. Though there are a few committed journalists, by in large it’s not news and it’s based upon conservative wet dreams.

    Ligit sources of information can be found for free everywhere. Every university web site, PBS, government agency web sites and dedicated research Facilities. Looking for real news from Faux is like fishing for trout in a cesspool. I personally can’t debate anyone who gets all their information from Faux. It’s useless. I’m not even trying.
     
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    5 million of Arizona’s 7.38 million residents do. So roughly 70% of the state does live in Maricopa county.
     
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    Barr’s version of the criminal investigation will be Federal Grand Jury indictments.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Well he has some clue. Is just the worst attorney general ever that's all LOL
     
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    And so misinformed you are close to treasonous.
     
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    Bout whut?
     
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    Wow! That is a lot to answer.

    But I will try.

    Yes, I am over 65 (72, to be exact.)

    No, BC/BS is not my secondary healthcare insurance. It is my only healthcare insurance. (One exception: I do also have Medicare for hospitalization--but not for the doctors' bills attendant to it.)

    Medicare would certainly not be "a better deal," as I see it. For one thing, it pays only 80 percent of the negotiated charges--whereas BC/BS pays 85 percent of them.

    Moreover, I really do not miss the money that goes to BC/BS, as I do not pay for it directly: It is subtracted from the annuity left by my late wife; but since I have never seen it, I do not miss it. (It is about $225 per month--much less, I believe, than Medicare is.)

    Well, I think that CNN and--even more so--MSNBC are enormously biased to the left.

    But I still would not resort to calling them names.

    Again: Doing so is a sure indication that one has already lost the debate.
     
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    Ah, no it isn’t. You are paying twice as much. My comment was “ someone “ is paying much more. And indeed you are. And the remaining 15%.....but like most people on the right, they over spend for less and like you say, “ don’t notice it” so they are happy and used to getting the shaft. Like I said. Your total is less then the interest I make per year on my investments. I’ve always used facts and science based decisions to set myself up for retirement.

    in the view of the right, fact based presentations are skewed to the left.
    Faux, except for a couple of day time journalist is a literally made up politically biased republican tripe.

    Life is really simple. The DOD, our intel, all our informational gov. Institutions before Trump, we’re all science based. The same science taught in every university in the world and every government in the free world.

    The majority of people in the US poll with the center left on climate change, education, welfare and all the major issues.

    Non science people have little to add to any discussion other then humor.
    They really can’t back any argument with related facts. Just be aware, we know what we don’t know. The right pretends otherwise.
     
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    Are you suggesting, then, that Medicare comes to only about $112 or $113 per month?

    Note: You still did not address the fact that Medicare pays only 80 percent (leaving 20 percent for the patient to pay), as opposed to 85 percent with BC/BS (leaving only 15 percent to be paid).

    And, of course, you also did not mention the (widely despised) "doughnut hole"...
     
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    YES for individual coverage and ....if you qualify for full SS benefits which I assume you do. It obviously depends how long you’ve been paying into SS/Medicare insurance. What are you doing, wasting all those years of your payroll tax ? Plus, Medicare is more portable....you don’t seem to care you’re pissing your money away. Obviously buying in without paying payroll tax is expensive.....but you claim you did !

    https://www.policygenius.com/medicare/how-much-does-medicare-cost/
     
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    My informants are smarter then yours. They don’t depend upon Faux News tripe.
     
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    Your so called donut hole including extra drug costs is 15%, medicare is 20%...but you’re paying twice as much for 5% more coverage. Sounds like a crappy companion plan.
    Speak to the gop rider which forces high drug costs and so called donut hole by not allowing Medicare to negotiate. But that’s fine, you don’t notice it.

    you need to look at your policy...you’re getting screwed
     
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    You are rambling - completely incoherent gibberish - not related to the discussion .. followed by the accusation that "the other" - depends on Faux News for their information.

    How would you respond to such gibberish ?
     

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