‘YOU STILL OWE US $1,400’: WOMAN DEPENDENT ON OXYGEN TANK DIES AFTER PROVIDER CUTS OFF ELECTRICITY

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/you-...es-after-provider-cuts-off-electricity_072018

    Karl Marx said:
    "Capital is afraid of lack of profit or too little profit, as nature is afraid of emptiness. But once there is sufficient profit, the capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent, and the capital agrees to any application, at 20 percent it becomes animated, at 50 percent is positively ready to break his head, at 100 percent he tramples all human laws, at 300 percent there is no such crime that he would not risk, at least under pain of a gallows. "

    And this is only the beginning. For the sake of profit, the capitalist easily breaks the law. Especially in conditions when pension funds on the verge of bankruptcy and in any case, future pensioners will remain on the face of survival. Even now, many 85-year-old people in the United States are forced to work. At the same time, some 85-year-old people work as truck drivers, creating a danger for themselves and others. Because an elderly person can suddenly fall ill and lose consciousness, or even die at the wheel of such a car. And you imagine how many misfortunes the unguided truck can do? Especially if it carries dangerous goods. For example, acid or easily flammable liquids.

    Humanity has only two ways - communism or degradation and the total destruction of humanity.

    What do you think about it?
     
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    We have seen what communism in reality yields. And wise people want no part of it.

    Looks like to me our safety nets failed, and good charitable christians are not so charitable.
     
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    Yes, if you don't pay your electric bill, the power will be turned off. Why didn't the desperate family members pay her bill? At least in my neck of the woods, they turn it back on pretty quick if you pay.
     
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    Interesting. Tell us where you can see what gives communism? Especially considering that even socialism was not built completely in any country on earth. But socialism is only the initial stage of the CONSTRUCTION of communist society. The most primitive first stage of CONSTRUCTION of communism.
    There is no socialism anywhere. There is no socialism in China, there is no socialism in Cuba ... even in the USSR construction of socialism was not completed, despite the name.
    But you are talking about communism.
     
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    I think oxygen tanks don't depend on electricity. Profit is the source of all wealth.
     
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    Conservatives and liberals aren't really qualified to discuss this question, what is true communism. We must hope Google_Murray_Bookchin and Kode come into this discussion.

    My only contribution is to note that the Soviets made pretty good tanks and exported them free of charge all over Eastern Europe. It's just that they weren't oxygen tanks.
     
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    I just look at communist china before they allowed in capitalism, and the old USSR, Pol Pot in southeast asia, and the living standards in cuba. I see some bad sh*t going on in every nation that went socialist as they worked towards communism. If it worked so well, we would see an entire world embracing it. The proof is always in the pudding as we say here in the South, in the US. Outcome matters. Viability matters. History matters. We have seen nothing but suffering and failure from this ideology. Reality has relevance.

    Capitalism is far from perfect. But it has been sustained and it fits better with democratic principles.
     
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    Well there are a number of things wrong here like no indication to the company there was someone with a medical condition in the house since it is against the law to shut off electricity if there is.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/health/new-jersey-woman-dies-oxygen-trnd/index.html

     
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    thanks for sharing
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    Hi Boris. Your "Daily Sheeple" "article" seems to be a bit distracted from its own headline here. Probably because the particulars of that story do not really fit the silly narrative it is trying to tell about evil capitalists.

    Now, if you feel that Communism is the only way for humanity not to, er, degrade and be totally destroyed, then by all means, revert to Communism. Tell Uncle Putie that you want the USSR back right now. He seems to be of a similar mindset, anyway, so he just might listen.
     
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    There are energy assistance plans that could have helped. Don't know what the family has tried but yeah there are ways to delay getting the electric shut off.

    Regarding the rest of the OP, capitalism, mixed with intervention or not, is the only one the 1st world is allowed to try. Every country that tried to start other economic systems got attacked so we won't ever know what could have been.
     
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    China has been Communist for a long time, as has North Korea. We can see there what has been and is today. Both are oppressive in many ways that we in the free world take completely for granted..
     
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    Read carefully.
     
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    Their government types aren't democratic and is probably why they are viewed as oppressive. Their economic models are a different story.
     
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    Are you raving? Do you know the basic economic slogan of communism? You do not know, otherwise you would not write such a thing.
    I'll teach you. the basis of the communist economy - "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." The economy of communism has no money. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Today's China is only on the road to building socialism. The structure of the Chinese economy is the USSR of the NEP period. If you want to talk about communism, socialism or capitalism - read Lenin's works at least. Lenin explains everything perfectly and intelligibly. In addition, Lenin is an excellent practitioner in the construction of a new society.

    By the way, socialism does not deny private enterprise. An example of NEP in the USSR and the artel in the time of Stalin.
     
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    Actually, people on oxygen only use tanks for travel. They have an oxygen concentrator that uses electricity and if the power company is made aware of that, they may not cut power.
     
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    So, are you going to ask your emperor to institute Communism in Russia, or what? Give it a try, let us know how that turns out.
     
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    In China there is no communism. In China there is not even a socialism built. Just like there was no socialism in the USSR. About North Korea, Pol Pot and others - I will not even speak.
    The economic model of communism is "from each according to his ability, each according to his needs." The communist economy does not need money. This is the very first sign of the communist economy.
    In the USSR and China there was only the construction of a socialist (not communist) society.

    The economic model of socialism is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his work".

    Do you see the difference between the socialist and communist economies?
     
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    The NEP was put in place because of what a catestropic disaster collectivisation was. To claim it as an example of socialism is misleading at best, intentionally so at worst.
     
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    Ask the millions of dead Kulaks.
     
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    Under the emperor, do you mean Putin? Putin expresses the interests of the ruling class. No more no less. Just like Trump, Obama or Kennedy. All of them are in the interests of the ruling class.
    Just like Stalin expressed the interests of the ruling class.
    Lenin - "The state is the dictatorship of the ruling class, carried out in the interests of the ruling class".
    Under Stalin, the ruling class was the proletariat, that is, the man of labor. Consequently, the state (the USSR under Stalin) took care of the proletariat.
    Under Putin, Trump, Obama, ... Kennedy, the ruling class is the oligarchy and transnational corporations. Consequently, the state primarily cares about the oligarchy and transnational corporations. It's simple.
     
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    Did the kulaks live under communism or socialism? In addition, do you know who is "Kulaks"? And what millions of killed kulaks are you talking about? Can you show documents about the killing of millions of kulaks? Or are you quoting Western media? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    You wrote some nonsense.
    NEP has no relation to the inhabitants of rural areas. In addition, in the village until 1928 there was a capitalist structure of economic relations. Only after 1928 began a policy of voluntary (again - voluntary) collectivization. Speaking in modern language - they began to create agrocomplexes, which were called "collective farms".
    You do not know anything at all? Read Lenin and Stalin. You will know the reality. But not what write in the Western media for idiots.
     
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    I think she was using one of those oxygen mfg. packs we see in the ads.
     
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    The "ruling class" is not set. It's made up of elected officials and people of means, and anyone can potentially get into that class. Doesn't make them evil or corrupt or anything else. In fact, there will always be a ruling class of some kind in any given society. It is how we as humans organise societies. It is even how our primate cousins organise societies.
     

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