“Arise like lions!” - Drive Out the Tories!

Jeremy Corbyn is preparing for new elections. He might be the next Prime Minister of the U.K.
The world is changing rapidly!!! What will the U.S. establishment do? How will they react???

http://www.socialist.net/arise-like-lions-drive-out-the-tories.htm

 

They will ignore him.
Just like everyone else does.

Election time for Jeremy Corbyn time is now over.
15 minutes of fame complete.
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Hate to say it OP but I agree with this.

Definitely a fun twist in modern day politics now, there have been so many lefts and rights in the last couple years that it has been like watching history up close.

I'll get my popcorn!

 

I think it will be a mistake for conservatives to ignore him, it's the youth who supported him in the last election... clearly what he is saying is resonating with them. He is sounding a lot less crazy than he did 20 years ago and that's with the benefit of hindsight.... Corbyn was right about so many things and the youth is listening, his integrity also appeals.

 

Yes, he has the ex Lib Dem vote. Student union politics is what he does.
The thing about the youth is this, by the time Corbyns next election comes round, he won't be head of the Labour party, and they won't won't be students looking for free universities any more.

His integrity? He is politician. He has none.
His "integrity" is to support every enemy of the UK. To support everything that no one else likes. To be a serial malcontent.
And while this integrity... is very impressive, it also alienates him from the mainstream entirely. Which is who he needs to win any election outside of a rigged Labour party one.

He wibbled and wobbled all over the place on Brexit just like every other politician did. His party hates him. He kisses up to terrorists and thinks he is more important than the Queen.

His integrity is strong enough to lie to the whole country and to promise them money he knows he hasn't got. If he sticks with his integrity, then no Nukes. No private industries. Communism and surrender to the first pathetic enemy that shows up. And the IMF bailing him out in the first year of office. Because no one else is going to lend their money to an anti-capitalist.

He's not funny or likeable of amenable. Knows nothing about anything or any one. Dull. Doesn't even make me angry. Doesn't even wind up the Tory's. They love him, they joined the Labour party to elect him.
Who will meet this guy and endorse him? Which foreign leaders?

At best Putin. Most likely, no one. Gerry Addams of Sein Feign. And some chap from ISIS.

It's all over for him, his last hope was a vote of no confidence. He organised it, but the Tory's got the vote of confidence and his own party, Labour, didn't give him one. They rebelled. On his very first vote.
5 years of Labour backstabbing and he is gone before the election. Or... Labour becomes the drongo far left party and David Milliband attempts to start a party in one year like Macron.

He's peaked. You don't get multiple shots at a general election. Winner stays on, losers get the push.

 

We had far less money in 1945. Nobody has to believe Tory lies, you know.

 

Yes, I do believe we had less money in 1945.
Not very surprising given the events.

I don't believe Tory lies. But then, I don't believe Labour lies either.

 

What people don't get is that Blair/Brown wasted an enormous amount of money and increased the UK debt massively. Someone's got to balance the books. Unfortunately, it is always the Tories who have to take unpopular measure to try to save the country and its economy. The debt is well over one trillion British pounds and is simply unsustainable.

 

Broadly speaking I agree that to be the economic cycle of the UK government.

Overspending followed by cuts, followed by overspending followed by cuts, rinse and repeat.

And yes, in general, Labour does the overspending, and Tory's do the cuts. That is the public perception of those two party's. Their place in the governments economic cycle.

However, the cuts have not taken place for a while. And they need to. Tory's got elected on that mandate and then made no cuts at all, but increased spending. Now they have missed their chance.
That economic correction has not been made. We may be holed beneath the water line this time.
IMF day is coming again.

 

Simple... They start a huge propaganda against him till the general voter turn out drops down to 40 something percent, just like the way they managed to get Macron elected. Who knows?

 

It didn't do much for the tories, with all Murdoch's minions lying about Mr Corbyn every hour of every day - it just made people understand how totally dishonest they and their dogs all were; it was the Sun wot lost it!

 

The paper quoted is subtitled "International Marxist Tendency". I wouldn't be looking for too much balance or impartiality there.

 

I suspect you are going to have a hard time getting people on an American forum to look at this. Richard Wolff explains in socialism for dummies how he was flabbergasted when he started teaching in the US to discover his students thought of socialist, Communist, Marxist, anarchist and terrorist as synonyms.

 

duplicate post sorry ...

 

The ideology of the mainstream media is that it pretends that it does not have an ideology.

To those who like to tell themselves and others that they don’t have any particular ideology I say this: If you have thoughts about why the world is the way it is, why society is the way it is, why people are the way they are, what a better way would look like, and if your thoughts are at all organized, that’s your ideology, even if it’s not wholly conscious as such. Better to organize those thoughts as best you can, become very conscious of them, and consciously avoid getting involved with a political party that is incompatible. It’s like a bad marriage.


Who in the mainstream media treats Julian Assange or Chelsea Manning as the heroes they are?

And this same mainstream media tell us that Cuba, Venezuela, Ecuador, et al. do not have a real opposition media.

The ideology of the American mainstream media is the belief that they don’t have any ideology; that they are instead what they call “objective”. I submit that there is something more important in journalism than objectivity. It is capturing the essence, or the truth, if you will, with the proper context and history. This can, as well, serve as “enlightenment”.

It’s been said that the political spectrum concerning US foreign policy in the America mainstream media “runs the gamut from A to B”.

 

Oh that was hilarious, tell me do you do children’s parties?

 

If you are paying, I'm there.
Adult parties too.

 

I see one of his interns has finally whispered in his ear that "Daddy Corbyn, just so you know, you didn't actually win". Took him a while to figure that one out.

The election result was due to Tory f**k ups, not Corbyn's successes. The only thing he did to rally votes was offer young adults 12000 pounds for free. The rest was the Tories losing votes because, as is typical, they ****ed it all up and went Tory snob with their manifesto, then shattered their image of unity by having multiple MPs backflip out of sync with each other for a week +. This is no secret, there's not some mythical policy Corbyn announced which caused the 20 point flip.

Nevertheless, May has government now and we're back where we were, with a much reduced majority and a coalition government. **** happens. Fire a bunch of Tories, don't let May run again, problem solved. It's a good opportunity to kick out all the faux Brexiteers.

 

That's just a political lie to justify the seemingly never-ending austerity - it could be paid off tomorrow using Fractional Reserve banking. This is all about accruing enough to keep up our payments to the EU until we get the hell out, thence to pay the divorce bill. The Tories used to be the party of fiscal rectitude but they're no better than Labour now.

 

To be fair the media where stoking the story.
BBC wanted him to win.

But yes, the potential of a Corbyn win has always been clutching at straws.

May cocked up. A decent Labour leader could have taken this one. Mr Corbyn however is an anti society nutbag.
He has zero chance now. He had zero chance all along.

 

I thought May was going to be our saviour, but she's as big a wanker as any of them. Nigel was 'the one'!

 

I don't think fractional reserve banking is quite what you may think it is.

A fractional reserve is the proportion of any deposit made in a bank, that a bank is not allowed to lend on to other people.
Typically, 1/10th.

I lend the bank £100. I deposit £100 with them.
With £100 in the bank they may lend on £90, always leaving a 10% fractional reserve of £10 inside the bank.
I may after all come back to withdraw some of my initial deposit without notice.

 

Only Nigel Farage has the democratic mandate to negotiate with the EU on this countries behalf.
Mrs May wanted it, but she is a remainer and the people of this country are not.

 

I never did quite understand it even when Zeigeist outlined how it works. I thought the governments just issued (essentially) junk bonds. So I accede to your superior knowledge.

 

Zeitgeist is a problem. It's anti-knowledge. Misinformation. A conspiracy theory and nothing more.
If you didn't understand it, you got it correct. It's nonsense.

Governments do indeed just issue bonds when they need more money.
This is called "borrowing". That is the debt itself. The money they sell the bond for, is the money they borrow and it is paid back on an agreed timescale with interest. A 1 year bond. a three year bond, a ten year bond. You get interest payments on the money and the money itself returned at the end.

The Bank of England issues new notes, prints money to repay it's debts also. but this causes inflation and creditors raise their loan interest rates to compensate for this, and in extreme cases like Greece and Zimbabawe, simply refuse to lend money at all.