“DOJ tries to oust US attorney investigating Trump allies”

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by archives, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,180
    Likes Received:
    62,818
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump tried to get away with this during the crisis, knowing even if he gets caught, republicans in the Senate won't do a thing about it
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  2. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    76,424
    Likes Received:
    51,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Orange Man Bad!
     
  3. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,720
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are enablers and Mitch McConnell is the Enabler-in-Chief.
     
    FreshAir likes this.
  4. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,720
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sophomoric
     
  5. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your dodge is noted.

    But when it happens with the next president, you get to sit down and be silent.

    Have a nice day
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  6. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No it doesn’t. It becomes “clear” to those on the right because they drink the kool-aid.

    You will justify anything he does, because your more about enraging the libs than you are about trump. If a democrat president did 1/1000th of the things Trump has done you would be in the streets marching with torches and pitchforks.

    Hell, you still think Hillary should be in jail because you didn’t like her explanation of the motive for Behgahzi.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  7. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He should be, but I wont... even if not completely corrupt, it's cronyism in its worst form and its NOT how a well functioning government works..

    Here's a question.. why cant the head of the SEC work out of NYC?? Isn't that where the markets are based anyway?
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  8. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What has he dismantled? I think daily I have heard some group coming after him for something.

    A big part of the mistrust though in many of those groups was how the Obama Admin, and the holdovers in the DOJ knowingly pursued the Russian conspiracy hoax when it was false. Or when Adam Shifty, went out saying how he had evidence to prove it...when he clearly didn't....you can only cry wolf so many times
     
  9. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5,380
    Likes Received:
    6,546
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No dodge. Just pointing out your affinity for manufacturing and believing non existent scenarios based on an incessant need to bash Trump regardless of the veracity of the story.
     
  10. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nobody not caring about this, will care who the next President wants to make US Attorney...we realize it's his choice.
     
  11. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5,380
    Likes Received:
    6,546
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The left keeps telling us Clinton is a distant memory that doesn't matter anymore, until they want to bring up Clinton. You just accused me of dodging in another post and look at you now. Hypocrite much? Clinton got people killed but what difference does it make at this point? She misplaced billions of dollars of the money budgeted for the State Department but what difference does it make at this point? She lied about why the attack occurred but what difference does it make at this point? The dossier was a bust because it was smoke and mirrors on the part of liberals from the beginning.

    Remember when Cummings demanded Horowitz investigate Trump?

    DoJ Fired/Resigned/Demoted

    • John Carlin – Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division - Resigned - FISA Abuses
    • Sally Yates – Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General - Fired
    • Mary McCord – Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division - Resigned
    • Bruce Ohr – Associate Deputy Attorney General - Demoted twice
    • David Laufman – DOJ National Security Division, Deputy Asst. Attorney General - Resigned
    • Rachel Brand – Associate Attorney General - Resigned


    FBI Fired/Resigned/Demoted

    • James Comey – FBI Director - Fired
    • Peter Strzok – Deputy Assistant Director of FBI’s - Demoted / Fired
    • Lisa Page – FBI/DOJ Lawyer - Demoted - Resigned
    • James Baker – FBI General Counsel - Demoted - Reassigned
    • James Rybicki – Chief of Staff to FBI Director - Demoted - Resigned
    • Andrew McCabe – Deputy FBI Director - Fired - Charges Recommended
    • Josh Campbell – Special Assistant to James Comey - Resigned
    • Michael Kortan – FBI Asst. Director Public Affairs - Resigned
    • Bill Priestap – Assistant Director – Head of FBI Counterintelligence - Resigned - *Is likely cooperating against the DoJ/FBI in investigations

    Watch List

    • Rod Rosenstein (DOJ) - Deputy Attorney General
    • David Bowditch (FBI) – expected to replace Andrew McCabe as Deputy FBI Director
    • Trisha Anderson (DOJ) – Adviser in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel
    • Greg Brower (FBI) – Assistant Director for the Office of Congressional Affairs.
    • Sally Moyer (FBI) – Attorney
    • Dana Boente (DOJ/FBI) – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division
    • Edward O’Callaghan (DOJ) – Acting Assistant Attorney General and Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division

    The impeachment was so bad that it helped Trump's poll numbers. It isn't our fault you guys keep running your underwear (skid marks and all) up the flag pole. Quit if you don't like the results.

    More to come with the Durham investigation.
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2020
  12. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It’s a dodge. They dont want to debate the issue, so they dodge the question

    Oh, and yes...The Orange man IS bad. But the right needs to be very careful with what they support here. Trump set the precedent of blaming the previous administration for everything, but he did it by releasing selective information about what they did, and how they did it. He has “investigated” them, and then selectively released information to help himself in the next election. He has literally fired anyone in government who has tried to investigate him and his actions and the right did not sit silent, they actually supported him and asked fro more. He has fired IG’s and anyone in the government who did not support him 100%, or even questioned him or his policies, and more importantly, do his dirty work for him.

    So now be careful righties. If Biden gets in I really think your going to see what these people have done get thoroughly investigated.

    BTW, I’m calling it now so you can save this post. There will be an “October surprise” release of very selective information about the “Russia investigation” very close to the election that Trump will claim shows that the Obama administration (ala Joe Biden) did something illegal against him. It will be a “proof” without context, and it will be released very close to the election for the purpose of effecting the election.
     
  13. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5,380
    Likes Received:
    6,546
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's racist.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    WTF ?

    There is so much in that post that is Fox News level propaganda its amazing.

    You know that all of the committees charged with investigating Benghazi said that Hillary was not responsible for the deaths of those Americans in Benghazi right ?


    I bring up Clinton to show the outright obsession of the right, not the left.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  15. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because the HQ to the SEC is in Washington DC.

    What is remotely corrupt about the President wanting to appoint the person of his choice? and cronyism? How so? Because he currently works for the President and the President likes him? ooooook

    The fact of the matter....just like everyone that the President has wanted to appoint to any postion over the past 3 and half years the dems go apesh&t
    Jay Clayton has had a brilliant career, from clerking for a federal judge, to partner at Sullivan and Cromwell, to running the SEC, inclduing the enforcement divison....even Dem DA Cyrus Vance endorced him
     
  16. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5,380
    Likes Received:
    6,546
    Trophy Points:
    113
    She got away with any responsibility for it. They didn't even have an IG appointed to the State Department when she was Sec State. No oversight. They appointed one AFTER she did her damage. You will ignore that poiunt also I guess but what difference does it make at this point?
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2020
  17. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are correct, there is a lot of it on both sides. I have always believed that you dont get to that level of politics by being “nice”. But their is a difference between “wrong” and “corrupt”

    What’s happening now to anyone who tries to hold the administration accountable is very scary. Not only because it is happening, but because of the rabid support of it by most on the right.
     
    Cosmo and Egoboy like this.
  18. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh FFS. It’s not about that and you know it

    You, YET AGAIN, make it something it is not.

    Have a nice dodge.....I mean day.....
     
  19. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One was not appointed, but there was an IG who served and DID have oversight while she was SOS. Your literally making that up
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2020
  20. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5,380
    Likes Received:
    6,546
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bullshit. he guy that acted as interim never did anything since he didn't have authority. It was whitewash.
    "Throughout the tenure of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (which lasted until February 1, 2013),[5] there was no permanent inspector general at the State Department, nor did President Barack Obama nominate anyone for that position while Clinton was Secretary."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_General_of_the_Department_of_State


    There was no permanent, Senate-confirmed inspector general at any point during Clinton’s tenure at State. Despite its own repeated pledges of transparency and bipartisan pleas from Congress, the Obama administration declined to nominate an official IG until five months after Clinton had left office. By then, she had become the only secretary of state to serve without the oversight of a permanent inspector general since the position was created in 1957.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2015...rtment-oversight-toothless-inspector-general/


    "Numbers from the nonprofit Project on Government Oversight showed that the Obama administration’s average time for filling IG vacancies is twice that of some past administrations. Under Reagan, the average time was 224 days; under George H.W. Bush, it was 337 days; for Clinton it was 453 days; and under George W. Bush, it was 280 days. Obama’s average stands at 613 days, “which is a problem,” Johnson said.

    The longest vacancies have been at the Interior Department, where the position has sat empty nearly six years, and the State Department, which, as several pointed out, went for five years with an acting IG. That represented the entire duration of Hillary Clinton’s tenure. One witness suggested that State’s acting IG might have turned a blind eye to Clinton’s use of a private email server."
    https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2015/06/senators-obama-fill-inspector-general-vacancies/114412/


    The chairman of the powerful SenateJudiciary Committee on Thursday demanded the Obama administration explain why it allowed Hillary Rodham Clinton to be the only Secretary of State in more than a half-century without a permanent independent watchdog to police conduct inside the department.
    https://grassleyworks.com/2015/08/2...o-permanent-ig-during-hillary-clinton-tenure/
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2020
  21. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe you should stop beating around the bush and say what it's about.....or let me help you....Trump wasn't suppose to win in 2016, so he shouldn't be able to have the same powers as any other President. That's essentially what it boils down to
     
  22. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, your LITERALLY making things up

    You're claiming that the State Dept IG had no power, and you're just wrong. The position has the power upon appointment, not confirmation. They were screaming and bitching about "permanent". Nothing more, nothing less.

    And if "senate confirmed" was really an issue for the right, they would be bitching now about it. But their not, and you're not. You are trying to make claims that are not true.
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  23. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    16,809
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, you keep making this about something that it is not. Im debating the action, your debating the person

    If you want to discuss the real issue here, I'll debate it with you all day. But if you want to mover the goalposts, or dodge, then have a nice day
     
    Cosmo likes this.
  24. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,720
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have no doubt that Trump will use anyone and do or say anything to be re-elected.
     
  25. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    i am talking about the action. Why can’t the president replace the interim USA with who he wants? or for who his AG wants?
     

Share This Page