“No ma’am, he’s a decent family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreement"

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looked like you did to me. If not, what did you disagree with, if anything?
     
  2. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    I disagreed with your claim that “right wing extremists” in the US want the US to look like Germany 1939. My claim was that they want the US to look like it did for 80% of its history, which didn’t look like Germany 1939.
     
  3. Moi621

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    APPOINTING, poorly qualified Black people does = Black Nationalist.

    Do I sense an admission regarding Obama being an Anti Colonialist?
    Thank you.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    No, it really isn't.

    And I sense someone who still doesn't understand what black nationalism is. I can provide links if you'd like. Obama criticizes the militant separatism of black nationalism. Wisely so. Same goes for all racial nationalism/separatism.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the same thing for every Republican, including McCain.

    They're all racist nazis who want to throw granny off the cliff according to the MSM and every democrat talking point.

    There is no nuance here.
     
  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Black Nationalist is like Socialist.
    People will discuss it without agreeing on the definition.
    Si?
    Socialist. Marxist? Nordic? Venezuela? USSR?

    I do not notice if someone is proud of their heritage.
    When they use it to discriminate against another American, it is worth noticing.
    Witness the Black Candle significance of Kwanzaa! Yup! Instilling Black Nationalism


    Barack (Barry) Obama demonstrated Black Nationalism in action.
    I have itemized some appointments and referenced others.
    I have pointed out Anti Colonialism policies.
    Yes Anti Colonialism = Black Nationalism duh-uh!


    If "we" were to list
    Presidents Who Hated :flagus:
    Obama would be #1.

    He is half white raised by his White family.
    He may come from better :rolleyes: East African, Kenyan Black stock
    His biographical evidence is, he came to the continental :flagus: from Hawai'i and beyond
    and adopted Black Nationalism as Barry became Barack.
    Sadly to his ignorance, a Hebrew name :roflol: sounds cool though

    Deborah summoned Barak, the son of Abinoam, from his home at Kedesh in Naphtali, and ordered him, in the name of YHWH, to take ten thousand men to Mount Tabor. He agrees to on condition that Deborah should go with him.​

    Find the chapter and verse y'self. Search Bible. Barak. and Deborah. A chick "judge".


    I voted Obama in '08
    1) a victim of his campaign - Hope, Change. sure, right, uh-huh
    2) could not vote Palin a heartbeat from the Presidency.

    I have not "hated" at President so much since NIXON.
    Although NIXON did sign the Endangered Species Act, I find no redemption for Barry Boy.
    And YES I did send him packs of cigarettes for Christmas,
    addressed to the White House with warm wishes to enjoy in his second term.


    Obama was Evil
    Obama is a psychopath who can get caught in a lie, smile and get people to follow him.
    Psychopaths know how to manipulate people. Psychopath per Dr. Carson, Black Neurosurgeon.


    Would any evidence convince the unconvinced?
    Truly, doubtful!


    Obama was as terrorist a President as America might elect.


    Ma'am was right.
    McCain got it wrong.
    :rant:


    Moi :oldman:
    Don't Get Me Started ;)
     
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  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, then describe what the US did look like for "80%" of its history. Be as specific as you are able.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    Overwhelmingly white European.
     
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    Only if you invent entirely new definitions. Reminds me of the Trumpeters on this forum who called me "Marxist" for being too capitalist.
     
  10. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reminds me of a Hillary supporter who turns a blind eye to her crimes. :roflol:


    BTW I was
    Sanders #1
    Trump #2.
    Amazingly, it was my party, the Democratic Party that cheated me out of the Sanders option.
    Not popular support among Democrats.
    As certain as they cheated me out of a Peace Candidate in 1968 requiring me to vote for NIXON.
    How is it the Democratic Party has a higher % of Superdelegates than the GOP?
    The Machine took over.



    YES I hold the Democratic Party, my party, to higher standard because it is
    The Democratic Party, the Peoples' Party.
    When corrupted, it is necessary to destroy it to save it. Just like '68.
    To compromise via support of a corrupted Democratic Party is to support the two corrupted party system.
    :flagus: First.
    Democratic Party Second.


    ttfn
     
  11. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean after they murdered 80-90% of Native Americans and stole their land? Yes, then it was white Euros.
     
  12. Brewskier

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    Feel free to prove your claim that white Europeans “murdered 80-90% of Native Americans and stole their land”.
     
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    And I was afraid nobody from the AltRight would post on the subject, but you came through with the bile that is synonymous with your ilk.
     
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    Yes, I suppose but there either wasn't the time or the plan, or the votes for the replacement. and it is unfair to expect candidates who promised to do both along with Trump, to vote to repeal alone and trust the fates will somehow come up with what they hadn't. Just because Trump was willing to ditch the replace, does not mean that McCain was obliged to vote accordingly.
     
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    I believe most of them died because we brought over a few diseases that they weren't immune to. As for stealing their land, we're talking about people still in the stone age. I'm sure it sucked to be them, but whose fault is it that they didn't even have a written language or knowledge of metallurgy?

    They can whine about not being as technologically proficient as the invaders, but thanks to being beaten by us, they learned the valuable skill of knowing how to be a black jack dealer.
     
  16. Brewskier

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    Not even. Natives became such a small minority mostly because they were demographically replaced by waves and waves of invading immigrants, which is what is currently happening to whites in the US.

    They thought the idea of owning and selling land was ridiculous. They thought we were the suckers for giving them weapons and other things.
     
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    Why did OBama only claim to side with one religion over another? Why specify Muslims and not any religion that is being treated unfairly, ect. Explain why that was and only then can you question another for questioning his motives.
     
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    He didn't specify any religion, much less one "over another," in the actual quote. I've posted it already (the real quote, not the one altered by alt-right trolls) if you would like to read the context you are asking for.
     
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    Those words were words of a politician, if you parse them decent family man means that should get a job and take care of his family, he called him a citizen not senator. Trump is not a politician, his blunt, language and boorish comportment are a breath of fresh air next to the phony deadwood of Washington.
     
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    Trump called himself "basically a politician" years before he became President when he was called out in court for his own phony language, which of course persists to this day.
     
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    Not quite. Diseases carried by Europeans killed most of them. Some estimates claim as high as 80% of the original Native people contracted and died from diseases that they had no immunities to. There are claims of disease being used by Europeans to kill off Natives, but evidence is scant.

    http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com...199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-3
     
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    It's remarkable that there was never a Democrat who said the same thing about George Bush.
     
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    Native population estimates prior to 1492 have ranged between 8 million and 112 million people.

    https://uwpress.wisc.edu/books/0289.htm

    In other words, they have no idea how many Natives actually lived here. Therefore it would be impossible to give a percentage on how many of them were killed by disease. But regardless, the poster I was responding to would still be wrong by saying Europeans “murdered” 80-90% of Natives, even assuming disease wiped out most of them.

    My point was more concerned with why they are such a small minority now, and that is because another group moved in and became the dominant group by demographics.

    Probably because that history is more influenced by the Talmud than anything factual. Europeans didn’t even know what germs were then, so this idea that they somehow knew that livestock carried disease that would be brought over to a world where the people had no antibodies to protect them is ludicrous.
     
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    We can also point to the lack of a proper study on the injun population during that time which cuts both ways, which means that whole "they decimated my people!!!" morons can be discounted, so it doesn't matter whether they were killed off by roving bands of colonists, or they never existed to kill off in the first place.

    case of injustices to aborigines dismissed.
     

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