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“No ma’am, he’s a decent family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreement"

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Quantum Nerd, Aug 26, 2018.

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    May I ask your level of education? Serious question.
     
    3link, Aug 27, 2018
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not a serious question since my education level has nothing to do with my opinions.

    You are assuming that people well educated must always believe a certain way which is false.

    Prison is filled with highly educated people who were not nice and the halls of saints are filled with people with no education.

    What you really want is a reason to troll me which I will not grant you.

    If you were really motivated to understand my position you would ask me why I think that, not what my education level is.
     
    Spooky, Aug 27, 2018
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  3. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you answered my question by refusing to answer it. Thanks,
     
    3link, Aug 27, 2018
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  4. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good, then you won't ask ridiculous questions anymore.

    Thank God for that.
     
    Spooky, Aug 27, 2018
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  5. AltLightPride

    AltLightPride Well-Known Member

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    It's funny that a thread that was made to show how evil Trumpies are, actually proves what we've been saying for years : that McCain and Obama are on the same side of the political spectrum.

    This has nothing to do with civility towards opponents, they've never been opponents in the first place!
     
    AltLightPride, Aug 28, 2018
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  6. Bowerbird

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    You know for the first time in many many years of posting online I am truly tempted to break the rules and post how disgusted I am at this sentiment

    It is truly odious
     
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    Bowerbird, Aug 28, 2018
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    Hahahahaha! Had John said anything else all those years ago then the nation's leftist allied ABC, CBS, NBC/MSNBC, The New York Times, and The Washington Post -- who were all BLATANTLY trying like hell to make Obama president -- would have collectively HOWLED that John McCain was a racist.

    Leftists actually think that Right of Center citizens forgot what those days were really like and really all about? Your dribble doesn't even qualify as a 'Nice Try'.
     
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    Gatewood, Aug 28, 2018
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    And other sentiments straight from the Klan playbook
     
    Bowerbird, Aug 28, 2018
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  9. Gatewood

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    And other leftist sentiments -- as per tradition -- spelunked from the Communist Manifesto as interpreted by Saul Alinsky and endorsed by Barack Obama.
     
    Gatewood, Aug 28, 2018
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    And liberals wonder why conservatives distrusted mccain

    He did the same thing on open borders and amnesty
     
    Mac-7, Aug 28, 2018
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  11. Liberty Monkey

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    LOL you're such a hypocrite
     
    Liberty Monkey, Aug 28, 2018
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    As a conservstive I dont want unrestricted muslim immigration if thats what you mean

    A limited number of highly qualified immigrants with immediate family - meaning the wife and children only - are acceptable provided they pass a background check
     
    Mac-7, Aug 28, 2018
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  13. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    What's hypocritical about praising a man who stands up for his principles? Did I have disagreements with him based on policy? Absolutely. Did I think he made a grave mistake selecting Palin as running mate? Yes I did. McCain realized that mistake later as well. None of that is hypocritical.
     
    Quantum Nerd, Aug 28, 2018
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    That's true. However, it is clear that they knew diseases spread. During the Plauges in Europe, those who could, quarantined themselves from others. There is some evidence that suggests early colonists, and later US Army troops gave clothing and blankets from people who had diseases as a way to remove the native population. No one knows for certain how true that is.
     
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    Exactly. And I think you speak for many on the Left. If I had to choose likes and dislikes for his policies, the dislikes would be the larger portion. I was very much against his militaristic attitudes and support for the Bush administration going into Iraq. One of the biggest failings McCain had was in trying to play politics and suck up to the Republican base. Palin was just one example. He later admitted that those things were mistakes, which only solidified my opinion that he would not have made a good president.

    But the thing is, he did have enough maturity and civility to admit his mistakes and stand up against the petty us vs them rabid fan mentality that's taken over politics. He lost gracefully, and perhaps the most important thing--he stood up to the one who tries to dictate what Congress says and does. I don't know how anyone can describe that as un-American.
     
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    The Iraq war had bipartisan support in the Senate and a fair amount of Dem support in the House. Many prominent Democrats voted for the AUMF.

    Yet this is still thought of as a Republican blunder. Rightly. Because it was the GOP who planned this, who crafted the vote, who voted most strongly in favor, etc.

    FDR, who is still viewed by leftist historians as a top 3 President of all time, didn't even use a vote. He threw them in watered down concentration camps by executive Democrat fiat.

    You can be sure that on that fateful day when executive order 9066 was signed, if the man doing the signing had an R rather than a D next to his name that we would never hear the end of it.
     
    Steady Pie, Aug 30, 2018
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    There were massive public protests against the Iraq War by Democrats.

    What massive public protests were there against Japanese internment by republicans?
     
    Questerr, Aug 31, 2018
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  18. Steady Pie

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    As far as I know, none, but that's not the point. The point is that a majority of Senate Democrats voted for the AUMF, as well as a fair chunk of House Dems. Without their support it would not have been possible, hence this was a bipartisan action. Indeed, the AUMF would not have passed either the House or the Senate without the bipartisan support it received from Democrats, among them many of today's leading figures.

    Internment was a unilateral executive decision by a Democratic president. Republicans did not speak out, but it wouldn't have mattered if they did. Their consent was not required.
     
    Steady Pie, Aug 31, 2018
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    Democratic politicians in that case were going against the will of Democrats in the public. Plus, the Bush administration...lets say “padded” the intelligence used to justify the war to Congress.

    The silence of Republicans, both elected and within the public, on Japanese internment WAS their consent.
     
    Questerr, Aug 31, 2018
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