“San Jose could set a precedent by requiring gun insurance”

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    ”San Jose could set a precedent by requiring gun insurance”

    “San Jose may become the first city in the nation to mandate an annual gun owner fee and liability insurance in an effort to curb gun violence.”

    “The City Council will take a vote on Tuesday and if passed, San Jose residents who own guns will have to pay a $25 fee per household and purchase gun insurance that specifically covers losses or damages resulting from “any negligent or accidental use of the firearm” in six months, according to the ordinance.”

    https://sanjosespotlight.com/san-jos...gun-insurance/

    Why would this be a problem for those aiming to curb gun violence, treating guns just as we do vehicles, with the same requirements and responsibilities?

    No Constitutional right is absolute, they all are, and have been, regulated throughout American history, so blanket applying the Second Amendment here isn’t applicable
     
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    I bet the homeboys there don't get insurance on their illegal guns :) California/San Jose/Bay Area is just looking for a way to sux more money from the people that will lawfully comply... It's run by ever-demanding socialist politicians..

    BTW, pretty hard to hide a unlicensed vehicle in the bay area, I'd have gone with smog equipment :)
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some people might not have a problem with a Second Amendment tax, but those same people would flip out if they had to pay $5 for an ID so they could vote. They’d call it a poll tax.
     
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    More moronic liberal moves because they hate Americans!
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Of course they won’t, but if you do anything to hinder the total proliferation of guns in America you have less weapons available for the gangbangers to access

    And a whole lot of those “lawfully” people are just as responsible for non gangbangers gun violence
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Understandablely so, voter ID has never been documented as a problem, 30,000+ gun deaths a year has
     
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    Not surprising that the party that claims to care about the poor is pricing them out of their constitutional rights. The ability to own a gun and know how to shoot is only for the wealthy. Of course, the poor live in neighborhoods where it is more likely they will need to defend themselves.

    How does someone without a car transport a firearm from the gun store to home, and from home to the range?
     
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    Haven’t heard a lot of complaints lately about auto ownership discriminating against poorer Americans, and why would you want to add even more guns to areas already saturated with guns and suffering the resulting consequences
     
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    Dont forget when Obams was pres all the talk about gun confiscation shot prices and supplies through the roof. Should the subject of cost come up again. :)
     
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    What's interesting about these new procedures is that liberals take guns out of the hands of the people. So many people live paycheck to paycheck and it is only getting worse under sleepy Joe. They will not be able to afford these overly burdensome taxes and stipulations for owning guns.

    And the people that are for this are already voters for liberals and will always be voters for liberals. I know many centrists that own guns that can lean left and that can lean right. This type of burden on gun ownership would obviously push them off to the right.
     
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    Prices shot up cause the gun manufacturers propagandized that Obama was coming after the guns, which he never was, and if cost go up, good
     
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    You and I both know that's nonsense :) It will do nothing to hinder anything and is designed to bend the registered law abiding gin owners over for a $50 dollar fee per year!

    So, if this is insurance, exactly what company will be insuring these bent over law abiding citizens? And what agency will be insuring Pedro, Jamal and Ol bubbameth white trash and their illegal guns they purchased from South of the border Guns salesman :shock:

    These posts go nowhere but the cold hard truth! The ONLY ONES TO BE SCREWED are the legal, law-abiding gun owners!
     
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    More appropriately, if you can’t afford to own it, maybe you shouldn’t, you aren’t preaching socialism are you?

    Does the requirements on vehicles direct a persons political direction?
     
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    You know there is nothing to discuss when devolves to posts like this TWELVE POSTS in :) Might be time to bow out and learn from it ;)
     
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    Is this a shout out to the criminal drug dealers or still picking on the law abiding, hard to tell ;)
     
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    Not nonsense, legitimate attempt to address gun violence, if you don’t think 30,000+ dead Americans nor school shootings are a problem, I guess you would see a $25 fee a problem

    And it is those “only ones to be screwed” are the ones shooting up malls, churches, bowling alleys, theaters, schools, concerts, grocery stores, places of employment, etc.
     
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    I don't know! This may all geared towards the illegal gun owners! I know they hate tax's too ;)
     
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    LMFAO, so you think this is a legitimate way :) Tax the law abiding gun owners to control illegal guns and criminals.
     
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    The problems for the people who mistakenly believe this will magically curb gun violence are:

    #1 - Rights aren't privileges

    #2 - It's unconstitutional

    #3 - This won't curb gun violence

    Infringing on the right to bear arms is unconstitutional, period.

    If Lefties want to curb gun violence, I suggest they stop coddling criminals and attacking their police departments and start doing something about the disastrous consequences of the social welfare programs they enacted in the 1960s:

    From the wild Irish slums of the 19th century Eastern seaboard, to the riot-torn suburbs of Los Angeles, there is one unmistakable lesson in American history; a community that allows a large number of men to grow up in broken families, dominated by women, never acquiring any stable relationship to male authority, never acquiring any set of rational expectations about the future -- that community asks for and gets chaos. Crime, violence, unrest, disorder -- most particularly the furious, unrestrained lashing out at the whole social structure -- that is not only to be expected; it is very near to inevitable...
    -- Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY), 1965
     
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    the 2A is a right protected by the Constitution. It is not a privilege

    I guess we should make people take out insurance just in case they vote Democrat which hurts the avg folk
     
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    Criminals and gang members are not hindered with gun taxes, insurance, and DROS fees. What you support only reduces the number of guns in the hands of law abiding citizens and provides criminals with easy victims.
     
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    Owning a vehicle is a need for many. Owning a gun is a constitutional right for all citizens! Infringing on that right for even one citizen is unconstitutional.
     
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    Not true, as I noted earlier, no Constitutional right is absolute, they all can, and are, regulated, that's a fact, and how do you know it won't curb gun violence when it has never been attempted
     
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    Yes, and if you want to import the money figure, those same owners plus the rest of America is now paying for the consequences of America's excessive gun violence
     
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    Amazing I have to keep repeating the obvious, no Constitutional right is absolute, they all can, and are, regulated, gun regulation is not unconstitutional
     

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