“The First Amendment was not written for Muslims....."

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  1. Maccabee

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    He's right about the first amendment isn't for a violent ideology such as Islam.
     
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    It's called self defense. YOU say the vast majority are not violent, insane destroyers of human civilization. I say they are. History is on my side.
     
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    Unfortunately for you, the Constitution is not.
     
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    No it isn't. Because all of the historical evidence we have (IE statistics) show the majority of Muslims are non-violent.
     
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    So if we're going by statistics, the fact that the overwhelming majority of terrorists are Muslims tells us what?
     
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    The separation of church and state was included because the colonists were mostly protestants fleeing persecution from catholics, and they didn't want one form of protestantism to be favored over another.

    I think the best thing that can be said about the separation of church and state is that it forces the federal government (not states, mind you) from distinguishing between one religion or another. As far as the federal government is concerned, there are no religions. It guarantees the freedom of thought and expression.

    Was it written for islam? As far as the federal government is concerned, there is no islam.
     
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    So by this, you mean that the OP is incorrect in his assertion?
     
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    Not really. Muslims weren't fleeing to the new world because of religious persecution. Protestants were. I doubt muslims would have even been allowed in the country at the time, but I have absolutely no knowledge of any muslims even trying.

    You also have to understand that islam is not a religion, just as catholocism had ceased to be a religion prior to the reformation. Islam has always been a theocracy.
     
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    It tells us nothing about Muslims as a whole because terrorists make up a tiny tiny tiny fraction of all Muslims.
     
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    It tells us a great deal about Islam, however. Consider the following analogy: most of the people who have tattoos are not violent criminals. However, nearly every violent criminal has multiple tattoos. So when you're walking down a dark alley and see a guy covered in tattoos, what is the prudent course of action? "Why was he killed?" "He didn't want to be judgemental."
     
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    It's a religion we should ban in the U.S. It's a dangerous religion.
     
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    I don't consider it a religion, but even if we do, we are under NO obligation to accept or be tolerant of a group that insists it has the right to rape, steal, destroy and murder whomever it wants. They are ALL insane and need to be kept out and the practice of it made illegal.
     
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    We are at war with an ideology, the lines become fuzzy and gray.
     
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    The Founding Fathers were NOT thinking about a belief system that has instructions (Qur'an 8:39) from their god to fight us until we convert to their religion - so they were not thinking about Islam. Islam changes the equation - 20% of the world won't condemn their god for saying to fight us until we convert to Islam (but maybe I can be SHOWN Muslims who will condemn Allah, I don't know) - they are on the side of their god, and not on the side of peace and freedom.
     
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    They are going to get NUKES, and the 1st Amendment will be tossed out when the nukes fly.
     
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    Yes, to show the difference between the Muslim mind and the Modern Secular Humanist mind, realize that Islam allows RAPE of captives and RAPE of slaves and RAPE of wives: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Rape
     
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    NEWS FLASH. Muslims already have lots of nukes.
     
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    Then we're as good as dead.
     
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    All religion is dangerous.
     
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    Muslims who deny this fact are practicing a form of taqiyya, basically.
     
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    Just because most Muslims APPROVE of their Allah burning all non-Muslims alive in his "hellfire" does not mean that they hate us!!!!!
    Hehe, yes, I'm JOKING. :) OF COURSE anybody who approves of innocent people being burned alive truly hates those people, of course. Are Christians any different in their hatred for non-Christians than Muslims are for non-Muslims? No, of course not - same hatred, different invisible friend in the sky.
     
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    Mohammad said "I have been made victorious through terror".....this tells us all we need to know about those that remain in Islam.
     
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    Which of course makes it a threat to freedom/democracy just like communism and Nazism are.
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    He is also, however, speaking on "the unofficial version of Trump TV"

    Face it folks, this is what the Orange Horror is really pushing for, as well as the present Republican Leadership. They are a MUCH greater threat to our freedom than ANY outside force at the present time, or maybe even ever.

    Upton Sinclair once said something to the effect that the only threat to the United States that will ever end it will come from inside and hail itself as the savior of the country. (I don't remember the exact quote and can't get off this page to look it up but that is close)
     
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    you do look a little pale.
     
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