1.5 million Catalans are marching for independence!what's next?Scotland,w-Sahara, Kur

You can indeed play pretend. Did you even consider data and poverty methodology when just coping and pasting data?

And that is the case.

Don't fib now, its not a jolly thing to do. I gave you specific details: developed country comparisons (referring to developing countries would be rather silly!); the data set capable of enabling international comparison (LIS) and a paper that compares countries using that data set.

Consider, for example, Smeeding. This uses the 125% of the official US poverty line to allow absolute poverty comparison. At the turn of the century (the period prior to the relative successes of Labour in poverty reduction), UK child poverty was 32.8%. In comparison: US (19.5); Canada (17.5); Germany (17.3); Belgium (12.2); Austria (15.3); Netherlands (17.3); Sweden (13.8 ) and Finland (17.4)

 

much like some people like to live in filth ...

 

I actually posted data and its source. You are claiming numbers

So you state

I gave you unicefs stats which rather contradict yours

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Interesting that you cherry picked those stats. Where is France? Italy? Spain? Greece? Nowhere to be seen it seems. You have decided that you want to attack the UK so you just assembled a list of countries that does better than the UK and disregarded those that don't. Dishonest use of stats exemplified. I posted Unicefs complete list of developed countries. You post 8 countries- where are the rest? Link please.

 

What are you implying?

 

You copy and pasted blindly. Where is information of the data set? Where is the definition of poverty? I managed it and someone who is referring to the evidence should be able to replicate such obvious good practice.

You don't know what those stats mean. You've obviously googled blindly and that just isn't cricket!

International comparison is notoriously difficult. The countries included reflects the nature of the LIS data (and where comparison is possible without empirical bias). However, happy for you to refer to one LIS study that finds higher child poverty rate in other countries.

You googled blindly. I find that most tut-worthy as clearly you're completely innocent of the poverty literature

 

to rich and heartless people who say it about the poors

 

UIts listed right thre

I know exactly what they mean. I read the definition

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Ah its is notoriously diffuclt but YOU just know what the 'right one is

You still haven't said why you cherry picked those countries that suited your claim but left out the vast majority of Developed world countries. So perhaps you would like to use your criteria with all the countries listed in the Unicef chart I posted above.

 

And your point? What are you trying to say?

 

You've started with drivel and then simply stamped your foot. What definition was used and what data?

LIS is well known, particularly in poverty analysis.

You continue to go with misrepresentation. That won't do! I've gone for a properly conducted poverty study that uses the appropriate data for international study. That has illustrated just how extreme child poverty in the UK has been. Don't like the reality? Read the Daily Mail

 

So give us All The countries in that study and a reference to it. Or are you going to play the game that Highlander plays and demand that I find your evidence for you.

If you have the evidence then give me the link. I am not going to buy a book, show me the evidence online because Unicef says you are full of sh1t

 

Smeeding (2006, Poor People in Rich Nations: The United States in Comparative Perspective, Journal of Economic Perspectives, Vol. 20 Issue 1)

Note that I've asked numerous times now for you to present data sources and poverty definition from the data you blindly googled. What haven't you presented it yet? You're really not very good at blagging knowledge!

 

Aye and what would that prove, you remind me of the boarstone.
Aye, right enough!

Or perhaps you may wish to discuss the wolf of badenoch's son?

Alexander of Marr??

And where is he buried?


Highlander

 

I gave you a link with the lists on it. You refuse to give me the full list of countries you cherry picked the data from' . You also did't give me a link- you named a book which I have no access to.

I am no expert in this area. I looked up unicef's report and they gace me a precise chart. Perhaps you would like to tell me why Unicef are wrong and you atre right WHEN you give me the full list of countries that the UK is 'number one ' of. WHy are you hiding them?

 

You were asked to give data sources and poverty definition. You've had yonks now to give it. And no, I won't accept just another blind googling. Write something to blag knowledge!

There's no crime in that. However, blindly using data is really poor form. You've been informed of the obvious: we need international comparable data source (e.g. LIS) and we need a clear-cut poverty definition. I've achieved that and demonstrated just how far Britain stands out.

 

So you don't know basic things about the town you claim to live in.

If you want to see the grave of The Earl of Mar (one 'r' not two as you should know ) I suggest you start at the Telephone exchange on Friars lane and walk down church street until you get to a Shop that sells artist's materials next to a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty little Christian bookshop . WIth your back to the bookshop look across the road and you will see some Iron gates and some steps leading up into the Graveyard of the old High Church. If you take the path that goes straight on and to the left you can find the grave of my Great Great Grandfather Thomas Henry Mackenzie and My Great Great Grandmother Elizabeth. Since Inverness is very small it won;t take you a minute to pop round there and give me the dates on their tombstones.

Then retarce your steps to the Telephone exchange go left into friars lane then right into friars street and halfway down is the Old Greyfrairs and Blackfriars Cemetary.What you want is right there

How come you don't know where the Royal Academy was? Or the Picture House in Huntley street?

 

Mmmm...... And the point?

And it's huntly street!

Highlander

 

Looked it up did you? There must be a number of places I know because I hear them and never bother to actually check the spellings. Of course if you are in the USA looking up stuff online then you will see the spellings- but then you use US spellings don't you!

If you were in Inverness you would know all these things and you could have checked out my ancestors and told me the dates on the graves or how about I make this one really easy. The bus that runs down church street- what number is it?

You have lied just as you lied about Churchill being responsible for the Boer war camps and his being a paedophile (or as you spelled it 'pedophile'(being an American).

Having a great thanksgiving?

 

What would the union jack look like if the Scottish bit were removed?
By Sam Judah BBC News Magazine






http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

 

Go pre 1066 and give a variation of the Golden Wyvern. Admittedly we'd have to chuck out the Welsh too! Sorry Bronwen

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25353086

 

That Rajoy does seem to be a bit of a tosser.

 

Constitution 1978

Section 1

National sovereignty belongs to the Spanish people, from whom all State powers emanate.


Section 2

The Constitution is based on the indissoluble unity of the Spanish Nation, the common and indivisible homeland of all Spaniards; it recognises and guarantees the right to selfgovernment of the nationalities and regions of which it is composed and the solidarity among them all.


Better be in silent than speak without knowledge.

 

Spain ‘won’t have enough tanks’: Catalonia to vote on independence, defy Madrid

The Catalan regional parliament has set November next year for a referendum on the Spanish province’s independence. The government in Madrid blandly said the vote won’t happen, but activists wonder how it might be stopped.

Catalonia’s four pro-independence parties, which hold a majority in the regional parliament, announced Thursday that the rich industrial Spanish province will hold a referendum on whether to gain greater autonomy or even total independence from the country’s central government.

The vote’s preliminary date is November 9, Catalan regional government head Artur Mas said. The people will be asked two questions: "Do you want Catalonia to be a state?" and "Do you want that state to be independent?"
http://rt.com/news/catalonia-independence-referendum-date-188/

 

You'll have to change yourconstitution then if the Catalunyans and Basques want independence.

 

No Sab, Spain hasn´t to change any constitution.. nationalist have to respect the constitution... If they´re in power is because Spanish constitution does it possible...Catalonian an basque provinces are constitutive part of Spain from the begining of Spain..there has never been a Basque or Catalonian state in history....Basque and catalonian always were spaniards... as spaniards were the people from Castillian Crown (between other, basques) etc conquested America like the Aragonese Crown (between others catalonian) subjeted Sicily, and Greece (between other lands) under the warcry: ¡Aragon, Aragon, Desperta Ferro!..


I'll tell you what will happen: the referendum will not be held, It´s unconstitutional. So, Mas convene early elections. Nationalist parties win and proclaim a unilateral declaration of independence. At that time, the government applied Section 155º of the constitution. For that time, the Regional Parlamient had commited a coup d´etat, a rebellion. No, there won´t be tanks .. are not necessary. The Catalan squad ( Los Mossos d´esquadra) remain faithful to the constitution (at least part of them) and the Guardia Civil and the Policia Nacional, are enough to submit in a few hours the political rebels to be tried for treason.

Section 155

1.- If a Self-governing Community does not fulfil the obligations imposed upon it by the Constitution or other laws, or acts in a way that is seriously prejudicial to the general interest of Spain, the Government, after having lodged a complaint with the President of the Self-governing Community and failed to receive satisfaction therefore, may, following approval granted by the overall majority of the Senate, take all measures necessary to compel the Community to meet said obligations, or to protect the abovementioned general interest.

2.- With a view to implementing the measures provided for in the foregoing paragraph, the Government may issue instructions to all the authorities of the Self-governing Communities


There is a constitutional way to separate, that all Spaniards vote in a referendum, but of course the nationalists don´t want that way.

Regards.