1 yr. out Feb 3 all the Donkey Dems will be chopin @ the bit at the Iowa Caucuses

At Sanders rallies there was diversity.
Not feminist rallies.
Black rallies.
"us" rallies.

There is no explaining the young embracing Sanders 2016
nor the support Yang garners.

But, both seem to gain support from a broad spectrum
rather than a concentrated group.
And broad spectrum rather than concentrated appeal seems
to count now.

Lord bless the Electoral College!
preventing the tyranny of a concentrated majority!

All the Democrat has to do is hold the Hillary 2016 States,
how hard can that be??
and dent the RED MIDDLE!

Sanders / Yang 2020

 

Biden is the ONLY chance that the Dems have & they are so busy tripping over ea. other, clamoring to the fringes of Marxism - that the don't even know that they are loosing their centrist 'base'. At this point, the only speculation in my mind is who his running mate will be... (TX is quite impt. too bad Beda boy is such a poser)

Good for a few smirks... https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/22/report-biden-being-asked-to-consider-one-term-pledge/

 

@Sahba*

Biden has no appeal in the West!
Zero.
None.
Nada

Or were YOU @Sahba* attempting satire?


Moi

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So many donks to pick from the party of hate and socialism.

 

Not true.

As I am sure you know, there is no such thing as a winning ticket, ever.

Biden is a safe pick because he's an established politician and safe, kind of what the democrats need to show they are sane with the AOC's and Harris's running around.

Trumps in a good position because outside of his rhetoric the nation is actually doing pretty well and there haven't been any real blunders so people are likely to allow him to finish it out and see where it ends up.

Historically speaking that's what we do.

Beto is getting a lot of airplay right now but he will be utterly destroyed as the elections get closer, he's nothing more than an underserving celebrity right now that will fade.

One of these no name guys could make a push for it under the right circumstances, they say or do the right thing at the right time but that's unlikely to win over enough democrats to give them the nomination.

The fact that Biden is waiting to announce pretty much tells you that he will be their guy.

Should be a good matchup between him and Trump. Pretty much anyone else you nominate gives Trump the win.

 

Those girls all made the same mistake, they didn't fire both barrels simultaneously, he, he.

Twelve gauge shotguns have a kick like a mule, they are a heck of a killing machine though and being smoothbore don't leave a lot of ballistic evidence behind.

Personally that's why I despise shotguns with pistol grips, give me a Mossberg with a standard stock and I am ready for just about any threat.

A little more 12 ga trivia.

A few decades back myself and an associate tested various loads and discovered if one takes a 00 shell dump the pellets out and refills the cup with water, that water can be frozen and will literally blast a nice sized hole through a solid wood door.

Imagine someone taking a chunk of ice to the chest, they would be dead as a doornail, but with nothing to indicate what they where shot with.

 

Please tell me why you expect Hillary lite to win the nomination? She is going to get abused on the road.

 

I think a Gabbard/Julien Castro ticket would be a formidable ticket. A veteran army major running with 3 terms in Armed services committee and against a perceived draft dodger. Julien is a successful mayor of an urban center and is Hispanic which will help in Florida and Arizona. I think Gabbard message of medicare for all and industrial and infrastructure investment will play well in the midwest rustbelt outside of Indiana.

 

Wonder if we can get another 20 some Democrats to run before then....

The Democrats will make cannibals look civilized before this is over.

 

Where do you see the infighting? I see just the opposite Besides Yang and Gabbard none of the remainder stand out from one another. Pro-war/Defense industry as the republicans, then with the exception of Sanders and Warren as in the pocket of DC/Wall street insiders as the republicans.

 

When did you develop this inability to see differences in candidates?

 

Certainly a lot of folks have thrown their hats in the ring.

 

Speaking for myself, (anecdotal insight into my questionably 'warped psyche'...lol) though I cut the 'cable cord' years ago in college, I have re-upped my cable subscription every election cycle. It's just too sanguinary to pass up in all it's minute by minute - wrought carnage, lol...

 

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Tulsi's anti war message will get some piling on. Yang may be attacked by "giving away money". Kamala, Biden, Klobuchar will get hit on taking corporate money. But besides that is how fast to turn the nation green.

I dont see anything as entertaining as the last republican primary. That was off the charts.

 

One candidate has an anti war message. The only other diff to me is medicare for all and how fast to turn the country green. Biden and Harris have to defend their PAC money from drug and the health insurance industry. How hard do you think they can hit. That leaves how fast to go green as the major point of diff to voters.

I don't see and street fighters like trump in that field. Gabbard will also be hit on her belief that a wall is needed.

 

Usually somewhere in the adolescent maturation process a child learns the difference between a 'want' & what is 'plausible'... I'll humor the 'leftists' by going out on a hypothetical limb here...

- I want free college & higher edu. for our nation
- I want a guaranteed paycheck (for nothing more than sitting on my 'arse')
- I want to feed the entire world's poor & destitute
- I want to pay reparations to every single individual in the world that has legitimate (&/or) 'supposed' disillusionment
- I want to "print so much US money" that we end the concept of greed & envy
- I want to restrict recalcitrant behavior to the extent that my g-friends & I are the epitome of Stepford wives w/ our 'Ken' hubbies...

Get my drift & why I don't understand progressivism... ?

 

This radical right wing Republican reptile has already given Tulsie $10 for her campaign. I'll have her sign on my lawn. No more stupid regime change wars. Trump is headed in the right direction, trying to get us out of Syria. If he faces her, he will run to her LEFT on the issue. We could use some anti-war leadership.

 

As I expected, the 'me too' issue w/ Biden is somewhat of a nothing burger & I doubt that Trump would want to double down on Biden's affectionate proclivities, given his own sordid dalliances. I maintain that it'll be Biden in the end, though Socialist Sanders is coming on surprisingly strong... Two old white guys, lol. I rather doubt that Buttigieg, Harris, Warren, Gabbard, Castro, Yang, Gilibrand (token "minorities") so 'un-meritoriously' aggrandized by the Progressives - will even make the final cut, lol...

 

Biden has tremendous appeal in the 'Rust Belt' & lets be honest - every other candidate (other than Biden) is a 'flash in the pan'. They, & the MSM that report on them, are so ideologically tone deaf to the Nation; - ensconced in their own 'fringe' Echo Chamber!

These same constituents in da' West, were / are they not still utterly floored from x 2.5 years ago? Make no mistake, Biden is the last Exit to the socialism that they pine for (ie he is the onyl viable 'card' the DNC has - to date) ... & when this becomes obvious 15 or so mo. from now, these same 'Westerners' will be heralding Biden as the '2nd Coming'... & yes, U can hold me to this, lol...

 

Biden's money and power comes in a large part from "da unions".
Still powerful along the Atlantic compared to the depleted union might in
their Rust Belt and areas where unions were much less significant such
as the West and South.

I would hate to witness a return to those 24 years of
Clinton - Bush, Jr. - Obama style of centrist, RepubloCratic policies
at the costs of working people.

To avoid that I was Sanders first, Trump second.
Sanders was not a choice.
Biden would be a return to those years via policies.
Working people would NOT feel the benefit of a Biden presidency.


Biden could not carry the Hillary States
although would show well in Delaware and the Atlantic coast
heavy union States. And California of course. Could he carry Oregon? etc.



Sadly, the media has selected Biden as the nominee and president for us.
Hillary nomination all over again.


Moi

Andrew Yang 2020
because Sanders has gone bonkers!​

 

I disagree Moi, (but I like your reasoning, none the less!)

 

LOL, I suppose that could theoretically be a viable hunting / SD load if camping in the Arctic & never taking your shells indoors... I do wonder the %-age of times the primer & powder charge would reduce the ice projectile into tiny shards while still in the barrel... hmm?

 

There are differences, but I don't see any Bloodletting among them. Tulsi and Ryan seem to have a little streetfighter in them, but I see them as counter punchers. You look at the 16 candidates that the Republicans fielded last year. Cruz was the only one that was contentious with Trump. Rubio and Jeb were liked whipped puppies.

 

There seems to be no squeamishness about bloodletting twixt Biden & Bernie, lol. Tim Ryan has more than a few things going against him; for starters...

- Way too ideological moderate / centrist w/ a history of pragmatic legislation focused on 'actually' changing blue collar lives for the better (not just free sh-t bribes) of economic entitlements --> 'subjugation' at the teat of da' Gov. (his rabidly prog. peers & MSM will shun him; as they have done w/ Gabbard)
- Little to no name recognition
- Last name (Ryan) alphabetically appears toward the end on the primary ballot (remember, no identifying / qualifying info on Primary ballots) top of the list always has an edge w/ the low information voters