10-year old boy detained for reciting Hamlet in Moscow street

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  1. litwin

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    so Kremlin kleptocracy gets terrified by a boy with Shakespeare’s book in his small hands? ...why? as far as i remember both Koba and Hitler didn´t really like Hamlet too...
    http://uaposition.com/zik-ua/10-year-old-boy-detained-for-reciting-hamlet-in-moscow-street/
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    Well, I am not even surprised you dragged it here, you cannot avoid opportunity to present here such scandal.

    Yes, police abuse. Yes, controversial. Yes, it's bad.

    No, it's not normal. End of story.
     
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    so he will return and recite Shakespeare, Solzhenitsyn (archipelago Gulag) , George Orwell, etc?
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    So, if police sees a lone child in middle of street reading aloud and getting money from passerby strangers, they are oblieged to make sure they are not a beggar and are not lost or forced to perform. Child reacted inadequately, as well as did his mother-in-law - the woman who makes the video and for some reason calls herself a "neighbour" and "familiar" with the child, yells, instead of explaining situation. As I already said, it still is a case of police abuse, police still gave official apologise to family of the boy, still the officers who were involved can be sued, nobody died, situation is unpleasant, and Internet is full of jerks condemning RF for actions of five people who happened to be in one place in wrong moment in wrong states of mind.
     
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    police sees a lone child in middle of street reading aloud and getting money from passerby strangers" LOL, i know its an olgino version , look its a free world platform no one here buys your Kiselev´s BS
     
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    No, they don't.
    The boy was taken away for his own protection when his mother was arrested for failing to look after he child who was 30 meters away from her and talking to strangers.
    https://zona.media/news/2017/05/26/10-let
    The fact he's a bright kid doesn't mean he won't be abducted and gang raped.

    Perhaps you would like to fact check your posts before you publish them as I'm afraid you'll make yourself look like a pointless moron and that wouldn't be nice.
     
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    Well that was pretty horrible to watch... the poor kid was absolutely terrified
     
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    Think positive, an American sex tourist might have got him and taken him away for gang rape if the cops hadn't helped out.
     
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    This is an extremely bad story showing the police from the negative site. However, many questions are remained open. Where was his parents when he was standing in Arbat? Why did he work in Arbat? For the kid of his age it is not normal. This is a known phenomenon when criminal groups use kids for earning money- by begging, or by some other means. So the motivation of the police to figure it out is also understandable, but the means....By the way, a woman who tried to get him out of the car was not his mother, but a neighbor, which looks also quite suspicios. Well, I beleive it is better for a boy to spend a day in the police, than to find himself somewhere killed in the forest outside of Moscow.
    And last, but not the least. This is not the type of the world news, that deserve to be presented here.
     
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    The version you presented here is from the Ukranian yellow press. There are much more worse things happen there, why not to post about them, eh Litwin?
     
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    The middle class boy from the big city saw the real face of muscovy , think about Tatars in Crimia , gays in the South of muscovy, 'lpr', 'dpr', they live this live every day...
     
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    whats funny why you ( i know why N does so) sells here Olgino version ? even your gasprom medias dont push gay-boy - homeless - Gypsy etc Olgino version, simply cos this middle class boy wanted this provocation, his live has nothing to do with your social bottom , he is just too well off for this boy . so why Vis?
     
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    Yep. Still, it's not the end of the world, things worse happen every day, that police and people have to deal with. Both child and his mother in law should've remained calm, and explained themselves - and that situation could've been avoided. Again, the worst they got is a push and a bit of scares, and turned out police really wasn't going to do whatever child expected them to do, when cried as if he gets murdered.

    Police does hard job, sometimes controversial job, but are still to be respected and trusted for defending law and citizens. As well as this incident is case of abuse, it also is example of mistrust and mistreatment of police by citizens who lack these trust and respect, and thus managed to create a hysteric scandal out of nothing. All it would've took - is for child point to his mother in law and said he is not alone there, for her to either come herself or be approached and confirm that child is with her, and that child is not quoting literary for money, but practices for, I assume, a some school performance.

    Calmly, and reasonably - instead of thrashing, dancing around police with phone in hand yelling "WATTA YA DOING, WATTA YA DOING" and calling herself "a neighbour" or "a familiar with boy". If she has some problems with her husband, or their marriage not registered, or has some prejudice saying words "mother", "mother-in-law" or a "caretaker", even in situation where it is a critical necessity - it is her own poblem, psycological or not, that is to be rolled into a tight tube and sticked up her own ass the moment a child she is responsible from got in problems.


    Moscow is a megapolis that houses OVER TWELVE MILLIONS PEOPLE, is a hub in middle of Federation's transportation and infrastructure net, constantly has tourists from abroad, gasterbeiters, illegal migrants and even bums on it's streets at all times - it does not takes child, left alone, to wander in the sidewalk to get kidnapped, any sort of pedophile or criminal can pretty much do it in middle of street and quick, if police would've not been patrolling or watching streets.

    I, myself, the only time when I was almost mugged, was not caught in some sort of a sidewalk or backyard - I just saw man saying something to me after I exited the Metro, and when I turned my headphones off it turned out he was asking if I want to buy gold from hands, and despite me rejecting offer he - now that I was close enough to hear him - wrapped arm around my neck and squeezed my shoulder and started threatening me and demanding my money. I say I was almost mugged exactly because I did not lost my nerves, remained calm, and told him that I have nothing, but a 20 rubles and a bus ticked with few charges. That was enough to get rid of him, since he obviously was not interested in getting in trouble over that measely sum, and I, who lied to the man, while had ~4k rubles and a relatively new smartphone, told about him to policemen at the end of street, and never saw this man there ever again - either he moved somewhere else, or actually got arrested. I wasn't staying around to check, considering it was almost midnight and I still had to catch a bus to Zelenograd.

    So, as I said before, people need to react adequately - don't seek drama and adventure upon their asses, and don't yell nonsence when facing either a real threat, or an imaginary one.
     
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    I know it sounds cynical, but it is true. Not necessarily american, not necessarily a tourist, not necessarily for a gang rape, but child of an age of ten is not to be left to wander for over a hundred feet away from parent or caretaker in a middle of megapolis. ALL sorts of people are on the streets, and there are some precautions that are to be taken when you live in a city. Having child a hundred feet away chatting with strangers is NOT a safe thing to do.
     
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    Oh, FOR ****'S SAKE! You'd prefer a kid to be raped or murdered, right? Look in the mirror, think for half minute, and for once in your life try saying sincerely, would you prefer police taking lone children to the office against their will, or will you prefer some pervert to rape and kill a lone child against their will?

    Come on, try answering that sincerely AND directly, as a normal human, without a stream of pictures, articles and other bulΙshιt!
     
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    Litwin, I do not sell anything here, I wrote my opinion once I watched a video. I had not seet it before even in any news. I would say the main issue here is not even police, but rather parents that left a boy alone on the street.
     
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    Jeez that's awful.. Makes you wonder what sort of training the cops have.
     
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    Yes true, this may be mild in comparison to those areas.
     
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    You have to wonder how the Russian police are trained......
     
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    True, it seems not a lot has changed since the collapse in 91, some old habits hard to change.
     
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    Either their training stinks or they are recruiting from the bottom of the barrel?
     
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    are you completely nuts or just pretend to be so? don't you see this is a provocation act where the 'boy' is only pretending to be 'terrified' as you put it, while the woman that's with him is swearing like a thug!
     

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