13-Year-Old Girl Gets Publicly Shouted Down When She Compares Abortion To Slavery

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  1. Mac-7

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    Naturally she still has a lot to learn.

    So do we all

    But that does not mean her basic convictions have to change
     
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    Oh, please.
     
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    That taking an innocent human life is wrong
     
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    It was about his insulting reference to women.
     
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    If only reactionaries who possess these qualities stopped there.
     
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    So "party girls" are the only ones who need reminding ???

    Why not remind the Pentagon ?

    Why not remind the CEOs of drug companies whose customers die because they can't afford their medications?

    Why not remind Presidents who want to go to war?

    Why not remind Anti-Choicers who prefer the pregnant woman die to save the fetus?
     
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    When I was her age I wanted to be a priest, and an astronaut.

    Convictions most certainly change. It is called growing up. Try it sometime.
     
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    Wow!

    From abortion to war in one giant leap
     
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    Mac-7 said:
    That taking an innocent human life is wrong

    FoxHastings said:
    So "party girls" are the only ones who need reminding ???

    Why not remind the Pentagon ?

    Why not remind the CEOs of drug companies whose customers die because they can't afford their medications?

    Why not remind Presidents who want to go to war?

    Why not remind Anti-Choicers who prefer the pregnant woman die to save the fetus?





    There was no leap at all...isn't taking an innocent human life taking an innocent human life?

    Or is it ONLY wrong if women do it ?
     
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    Yeah, and this one is going to grow up into one hell of a Republican woman!
     
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    That's true depending on the environment that she is raised in and what path her life takes down the road.

    While in high school and college I was the biggest conservative there was in my family; then I graduated from college, went to work in the real world and saw how life really was and changed my convictions.
     
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    So you hope. lol
     
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    Yeah, and obama wanted to be Doctor J

    But they say Motzart wrote his first symphony at age 9
     
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    Are you saying that keeping conservative views from childhood into adulthood is just as unrealistic as your childhood dream of becoming a priest and an astronaut? Interesting career combo by the way.
     
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    All parents influence their children's views to some extent. Liberals as well as conservatives. This girls views should have been respected and tolerated. And if the next speaker spoke in favors of
    abortion, she too deserved that same right. The problem here is not abortion - its intolerance, disrepect and intimidation. Voltaire said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the
    death your right to say it." Today in America that spirit is dead. Killed by Liberal and Conservative intolerance.
     
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    ""The problem here is not abortion - its intolerance, disrepect and intimidation""' championed and encouraged and utilized by the President, Trump.
     
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    Personally, there are all sorts of situations where i feel that a woman, or family, should not be forced to have a child.... for instance if the child has a significant birth defect.
    But beyond that, i do not believe in bringing unwanted children into this world. It is not good for the parents, not good for those children, and not good for society,

    Further, i do not believe that a fetus is a child.... nor do i believe that the stages before a fetus constitutes a child..,. And therefore i think the there are no rights beyond the rights of the family, and i think the government has no standing.

    I certainly understand if others feel differently, and choose to govern their life decisions by their own moral code. But i think their moral code should remain their own personal code, and not be foisted on others
     
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    Then why are taxpayers forced to feed others offspring, when taxpayers are even further removed from the matter than those whom you say have no stake in the matter after having done everything to bring the pregnancy about in the first place. Sheesh, you guys want it both ways with such magical thinking.
     
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    having no rape exceptions in them is a sick dream of some on the right
     
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    let's hope it never gets to

    21st Century : Women forced to have their rapists baby
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Sad that she never learned what true slavery is....having the right to your own body taken away.....exactly what Anti-Choicers want to do to women.

    (It's only "obviously" to YOU it isn't obvious at all)

    NO, she is in error in her comparison. Mine is correct.

    Sad that she never learned what true slavery is....having the right to your own body taken away.....exactly what Anti-Choicers want to do to women.





    There is no "child " in the womb.

    It was not "invited". The woman had sex, she did not "invite" something to grow inside her. Oh, she could "invite" all she wants but that doesn't mean sex will end up in pregnancy.


    Consent to sex is not consent to any other act.




    If one rents out a room and the renter attacks or harms them in anyway they have a perfect right to kick the renter out.


    And , I'm sorry , but your statement: """"its lodging paid for ahead of time via intercourse and orgasm."".is just too silly to address...




    What?

    Let me see if I can decipher that....Are you saying that once a child is born those that would force a woman to gestate are NOT interested in helping that "precious life" ?








    Uh, I don't see that.

    I see Anti-Choicers wanting it both ways...they want to force women to gestate but hate the thought of helping the ensuing child...






    I am struggling to see why you couldn't address what was in my post(???)
     
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    I agree BUT at least those Anti-Choicers are not as hypocritical as those who say that " A fetus due to rape is somehow different than a fetus conceived in consensual sex".


    There is NO difference and the abortion of either is exactly the same, same procedure and same outcome...which indicates , once again, that those Anti-Choicers are only interested in punishing women who have had consensual sex.
     
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    yep, agree, we are talking about the victim here of a rape... forcing her to have her rapists baby is different in that regard

    kinda like sex is sex, but forcing someone to have sex is worse
     
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    No one forced her to have the abortion 10 weeks after she was raped.

    Rape victims are in a far better position than other sexually active women to get the abortion early and ahead of time.
     
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    republicans want to pass laws to force rape victims to have their rapists babies though

    I say put 'plan b' in all rape kits, do you support this, would reduce abortions?
     
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