14 million Russians don't have enough money, even for food.

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    RESTORANT-1.5$ included 0.3-0.5 l strong alcogol
     
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    Don't wish harm to others. It's unhealthy.
     
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    Yes, and the USA and the west quit fomenting unrest and destablization in these countries.
     
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    "Foreigner"?

    From what I've read, Russia is fighting starvation and alcoholism. If I am incorrect, please, by all means, educate me. You could start by looking at the links I posted.

    Yes, its true we are the second biggest exporter of oil but I was talking about Russia. I thought that's what this thread is about - Russia. I clearly stated that Russia needs oil.

    Global warming will open up shipping lanes in the Arctic, which Putin wants. Putin owns trump; trump will give Putin what he wants. Is there anyone who does not know this?
     
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    Surprisingly, when I was speaking about "countries going through worse" I mostly thought of USA and Europe during Great Depression, when poverty rates were going beyond 80% for some of countries. More of a historical point of view..

    But yeah.. Modern world has examples too. Plenty of them.
     
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    1) There is difference between poverty and starvation, first of all. Also, statistics often forget to mention difference in income AND prices between capital and regions. As result - the grocery products, clothing and other domestic goods, that are not imported, usually are cheaper in regions, than they are in capital. Technically people there can be below poverty line - yet still capable of feeding themselves.
    Does not means that poverty is not a problem, or that crisis, provoked by sanctions, had no effect on population. For two years we had notable economic problems, my own family felt it, and I have pretty good evidences of minor business being harmed, with several local stores closing and getting replaced with corporate supermarkets - as one of examples. Some minor banks have went bancrupt, my own uncle got caught with both banks he had loans from calling loans back - wich driven him to sell apartments he owned. He managed to end up buying a house and an emptry studio apartment in newly built block - but still, it was a headache. And a good example of how the economic crisis can affect people.
    Though, got to admit that lately it calmed down. Markets adjusted to sanctions, I suppose.

    As for aloholism - it have been a notable problem at rather recent point of our history. It still considered to be a serious social problem - but a problem we are solving. In last decade Russian Federation has moved from top 10 countries in consumption of alcohol per capita. The alcohol and smoke ads banned, alcohol does not gets sold without person presenting their passport - that takes it's toll on sells and consumption of alcohol. This is not exactly a usual anti-alcohol campaign, but it is effective. Plus - drinking heavily is not very popular among youth nowadays, so I have high hopes for us moving further down the list.
    There is a WHO (World Healthcare Ogranisation) statistic on the alcohol consumption:
    http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.A1026?lang=en?showonly=GISAH


    2) Why are you assuming that Russia needs more sources of raw oil? As I said - we already are exporting it in great numbers. It would've made sence, if we had need for it - and used arctic as source of cheap oil. But we already have it. On top of that - arctic reserves are, if I recall correctly, secured by United Nations resolution that we signed. Exploiting them would be a catastrophy. So your statement basically makes no sence, unless I am missing something. Why are you thinking we may be needing more oil?


    3) And in meantime - speaking of catastrophies - again, global warming can not be in interests of our business or our government, due to incredible amoung of complications, financial losses, humanitarian and infrastructural catastrophies it would cause, it would drive somewhat ~10-15% of our population homeless, with whole cities being drowned - including the cities that would be "opened" to the arctic shipping lanes you theorised about. On top of that - an unpredictable climate change, that may cause all sorts of catastrophies across the country. Our apartment blocks may be able to withstand a rare, once in a couple decades, tornado - but they won't be able to save people from droughts, floods, or wildfires. Nor our agricultural sector would be secure from them. So - climate change is as harmful, even if not more harmful for us, than it is for the any other country on the globe. Hence - this is why we ARE part of the Paris Climate Agreement.


    So, I hope I pointed well enough that whatever reasons Trump had to withdraw USA from this agreement - they have nothing to do with my country.
     
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    it is different things .
    a person may hate Ukraine and don't hate Ukrainians
     
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    A few months ago i was in the Crimea and didn't see any problems with poverty and food. Given that the region returned to Russia relatively recent
     
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