2 my fellow righties, saying "masks don't work" is as bad as lefties saying "walls don't work"

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please stop making my party look like absolute crap with your anti-mask rhetoric.
    You know how the left sound absolutely pathetic and ridiculous when they say "walls don't work"? that's how you guys sound when you say that about mask.
    The basic laws of physics cannot be denied!
    BARRIERS WORK PERIOD!
    Try talking in direct sunlight, you will see very tiny particles of saliva in the air projecting out when you speak (kind of like when you can see dust in your car in direct sunlight)
    Now try it WITH the mask, you won't really see that.
    Now as far as these doctors that say "Masks have not been proven to stop the spread of corona", they are absolutely right. If someone sneezes on something and they have rona, and then you touch that object and rub your eye or something, yes you could get it, and yes, the mask isn't gonna do anything for it. but this argument is lame and petty. Don't dumb yourselves down to the level of the left. Just put on the mask and stop crying about it! You can dramatically slow the spread by doing this simple act! Just shut up and do it and for the love of God, stop making my party look like a bunch of scientifically impaired morons!
     
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    Until April of this year, EVERY expert said DO NOT WEAR MASKS - including Dr. Fauci and the CDC. Only when the richest and most powerful people on earth realized they can completely take over, can eliminate the middle class, and gain total submissive and power over everyone did this change.

    Homemade masks spread bacteria and viruses - and harm (or kill) the wearer.

    Don't dumb down to the propaganda outlets of the richest and most powerful people on earth making trillions off of this - destroying their middle class competition. Don't be a submissive sheep being lead to the slaughter - reduced to peasant peon status by the absurd 24/7 bio-terrorism campaign.

    Comparing homemade masks to "the wall" would only apply if the slates in the wall had 10 foot gaps between each slate.
     
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    And that's the thread.

    Mask Fascism: Repulsive & irrational at best
     
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    Lets see, wall have holes typically smaller than the human body or no holes at all. It takes work to circumvent the wall.

    Masks, cloth or paper masks, even M-95 masks have openings larger than the virus which can go through with little to no work. Imagine peeing in a pool and thinking the swim trucks keeping back the urine from others.
     
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  5. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Btw, funny analogy with the peeing in the pool, but in all seriousness do you really think coughing with a mask on yields the same aerosol germs as no barrier at all?
     
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    Does it produce the same? Yes. Does it spread out in front of you with a mask on? No, it spreads to the sides and up and down. Some will get caught on the mask, but it still goes into the air. The mask is a great placebo, you might not get the head on transmission, but stay in the room long enough with someone with a mask and you can still catch their COVID.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    No. Masks do not stop nor prevent the spread of viruses, plain and simple. See N95 specifications. See COVID specifications. The disposable masks being worn by the masses are much worse... the cloth masks being worn by the masses are even worse than the disposable ones...

    Yes I do.

    No. It is the mask proponents who sound silly, as they are promoting the equivalent of stopping/preventing the spread of water by using a spaghetti strainer...

    Sure they can. You are denying them right now.

    What barriers? Border walls?? Plastic COVID barriers? What does "work" mean?

    Correct.

    Yes you will, but even if not, there's more than what you can see with the naked eye. While masks stop larger droplets, they do not stop much smaller ones, nor do they stop viruses.

    Correct.

    No it isn't.

    I'm not. You are, by joining them in the denial of basic virology, immunology, and even much of science in general.

    NOW you are starting to sound EXACTLY like a leftist...

    No, no I will not put it on. There's no reason for me to wear one, and I should have the right to make my own health care decisions... Why are you taking the liberal position of government force and coercion on this issue? Aren't you a conservative? Aren't you a defender of the Constitution?

    No you can't. This virus has already spread all around the world. Mask wearing did not stop that...

    YOU are the one denying science... as well as denying engineering and mathematics...
     
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    If you stay with a covid positive person in a non-ventilated room for long enough, you will get covid, no matter what PPE you use. That doesn't mean that the mask is ineffective, it still is a kinetic barrier that slows transmission. Why does it have to be 100% effective to be of any use?

    You can apply the same principle to trump's great wall. If you give a motivated immigrant a year to scale it, they will scale it. Second, 2/3 of illegal immigrants get into the US by overstaying visa. The wall is not going to do anything for that. So, because the wall is not 100% effective, is it totally useless? No, some border crossings are obviously prevented, so the overall rate of illegal immigrant entry will go down. Will it go to 0? Absolutely not. The wall is like wearing a mask, but only putting it over your mouth, but not your nose.
     
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    Bingo!!!
     
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    Whats "long enough"? Whats "proper ventilation"? We are talking about universal mail in ballots for places where lines usually accumulate outside. But if youre going with "if it saves one life" argument, why not give everyone a vapor and allow it to be used by kids 15 and above in small doses.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-likely-contract-covid-19-prompting-nicotine/

    Or push HCQ regimen since that has been shown to be a prophylactic as well?
    https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study
     
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    You mean we adapt when we learn new facts? Hmmmm. I like that strategy! I think it should apply to everything we do!!
     
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    I've told you this several times. It's to lighten viral load by reducing the distance that droplets travel before they fall to the ground.

    So easy to understand.
     
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    Some people were asleep in psychics when friction and resistance were being taught.
     
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    Here is a picture of "water droplets" being breath through a mask. Droplets this small don't just "drop to the floor".
     
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    Correct... These people are attempting to stop/prevent the spread of water by using a spaghetti strainer...

    The specs of an N95 mask are 95% of particles @ 0.3 microns.
    The specs of COVID are roughly 0.1 microns.
    0.1 < 0.3 and 95% < 100% ... all it takes is one virus to potentially infect someone...

    The blue disposable face masks that you see people wearing all around are much worse. Those are rated at 95% of particles @ 3.0 microns.
    0.1 <<< 3.0

    The cloth face masks that you see people wearing all around are even worse yet...

    COVID is an airborne virus. It is in the air, and can survive there for hours. A disposable/cloth mask is not going to stop it; a plastic barrier is not going to stop it; shutting down an economy is not going to stop it; social distancing (6 ft apart) is not going to stop it; fear mongering is not going to stop it... ... ...

    UV light stops it. Immune systems stop it. Get out in the sun!!! Treat your immune system well... Take some Vitamin D / Zinc supplements...
     
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    I've seen it. It's proof positive that the masks slows it down. If I vape in the open, my vapor goes across the room. With a mask? Not so much. It stays within a small radius.

    The six feet distancing rule is WITH masks. If you aren't wearing a mask, the guidance is to keep a 30 foot distance.
     
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    Actually, that is not true. My bosses wife tested positive for COVID so my boss went to get an antibody test for him and their 2 kids about a month after her positive test. Neither child nor him had the antibodies for COVID.

    [​IMG]
     
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    And again, the mask acts like the swimming trunks. Just because you peed in one spot, doesn't mean others wont come through that spot and the urine isn't still there. OR, wind/water currents will spread it around still.
     
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    Not exactly the same amount, but it still yields aerosol germs, and that's all that is needed in order to infect someone... Water still gets through the spaghetti strainer, and that's all that's needed in order to get something wet...

    Also, during moments that masks are removed in order to drink water, eat food, scratch an itch, and whatever other reasons, it is the same as if one wasn't being worn to begin with (since the "seal" has been broken, and that's ignoring the gaps beneath the eyes and around the chin/cheeks).

    Masks do not work.
     
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    I'm a righty and I'm not anti-mask. I'm just against the government telling me it's illegal not to wear one.

    When will the public remove their masks? Will they wear them forever or remove them when told to do so?
     
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    Which qualified epidemiologist told you this?
     
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    Nailed it again...
     
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    Irrelevant. It is still in the room. It is still in the air. It still spreads throughout the room when people walk around, wind blows, etc. etc...

    It doesn't matter; see above.

    Six feet does not stop a virus. Thirty feet does not stop a virus.
     
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    This sounds like something you made up in your head.

    Good ventilation is a known factor for keeping this thing at bay. The more circulation, the less chance it has to find a host. Wind blowing is a good thing for us; bad for COVID.
     
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