20 dead, hundreds injured as explosions hit Sri Lankan churches and hotels

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  1. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Can you please learn how to paragraph....youre just ranting and raving...
     
  2. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    also universally referred to as copy and pasting
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The UN needs to have more military power than any nation or coalition of nations, otherwise it does not have the might to enforce what it sees as the right.

    Your argument is decidedly Hobbesian, but Hobbes is based entirely around power relations. If the US tells you and your good intentions to get stuffed the UN has a choice - invade or capitulate.

    As an example of this - look at the invasion of Corfu by Mussolini's Italy in 1923. The League of Nations didn't like this as they had wanted to outlaw war following WWI.

    They simply had no might to enforce their right. How would you resolve this?

    In the present day, how do you intend to force compliance from rogue nations, except by making the UN the mightiest entity in the history of the world? If the US or China tell you to go get stuffed, your response cannot be anything but capitulation or superior military force.

    Might does not make right, might makes it possible for the good to enforce the right against the bad, or indeed for the bad to enforce the wrong against the good. There is no magic bullet, if you do place absolute power in UN hands there is no guarantee it will act in the right.

    I am very much enjoying thia discussion, Alexa. Maybe we should make a dedicated thread?
     
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  4. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I agree. That paragraph was 624 words long lol, that's half a sophomore philosophy essay in one breath.
     
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  5. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    If the UN has 47 muslim nations as members, how can empowering the UN further be anything
    but suicide...
     
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  6. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alexa and I seem to be polar opposites despite agreeing on many things.

    I support radical local autonomy. Government close to the individual. I view global federalism as tyranny of the highest order.

    He supports radical central authority in a federal global superstate.

    Then there's everyone else in between.
     
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  7. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely not.
    Huh? What exactly do you think the UN was created for? It is meant to be a Democratic meeting of nations, one that offers its members perks and peace by negotiation and vote. The veto is bullocks and should be either reformed or scraped but probably was created with good intentions. But military might is counter-productive to the idea of a United Nations in the first place.
     
  8. Pisa

    Pisa Well-Known Member

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    The attacks were most likely masterminded by a homegrown terrorist organization, probably not affiliated with al Qaeda or ISIS, according to reports in the media.

    CNN published a document revealing that the Sri Lankan police knew about an imminent attack, yet no special security measures were taken.
    https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-n..._content=2019-04-21T22:17:05&utm_source=twCNN

    According to an Indian TV news channel, a ninth bomb has been discovered and defused near Colombo's airport.
    https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/...inth-bomb-defused-near-colombo-airport-212476
     
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    When you get older you'll realize that 'bigotry' is a 2-way street? And you ought to look up 'naive' too. Actually I'll save you the trouble . . .

    na·ive

    adj.
    1. Lacking worldly experience and understanding.
    a. Simple and guileless; artless: a child with a naive charm.
    b. Unsuspecting or credulous.

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/naive

    No need to thank me, it's all part of the service. :mrgreen:
     
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  10. JessCurious

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    Alexa, Your statement that "We cannot kill enough" when it comes to Muslim is simply a lie. Iran has provoked the US repeatedly, including seizing US naval personnel in international waters, and yet
    the US has refrained from going to war. Iran is also engaged in developing nuclear weapons that will destabilize the entire region, and yet the US has refrained from attacking her to prevent that from
    happening. This myth that the US is waging war on Muslims is simply a hatte-filled fantasy designed to justify the horrific murders carried out by Muslims like the attacks in Sri Lanka - the death toll
    there is now over 290. You say "The West has changed" following 9/11. Is that a surprise? Muslims murdered over 3,000 American citizens on 9/11 in cold blood, including many women and children
    (and even some Muslims). Would any country suffer such an atrocity and not change? It will be remembered that a few years ago Muslims all over the World went on murderous rampages over a few
    cartoons in an obscure magazine. Considering the provocation, America's reaction was remarkably restrained. Steps were immediately taken to ensure the safety of our Muslim citizens and to condemn
    anti-Muslim rehetoric. We were repeatedly advised not to blame the majority of Muslims for the actions of a handful of fanatics. There were a handful of ugly incidents, I recall there was one murder, but
    I doubt any other people would have been so restrained in their reactions. Certainly no Muslims (Islam being the religion of perpetual outrage) would have been so self-controlled. Despite supposed
    American intolerance, Muslims still try to flock to this country to enjoy freedoms and benefits they can't get in Muslim countries. Two Muslim women have recently been elected to Congress (Though
    both appears to be anti-Semitic A-holes). If there is now more suspicions toward Muslims than before 9/11, Muslims have only themselves to blame by believing the hate-filled propaganda of Islamic
    extremists and embracing the suppression of women, Gays, and Christian minorities in their own countries.
    As for the Christian Right, they have less influence in this country than Hollywood Liberals, Gays, Feminists, etc. etc. Look at American TV and movies, where Conservative Christians are
    routinely mocked and ridiculed. Saturday Night Live mocks a 'Church Lady' not a 'Mosque Lady.' It could be argued that they are more disliked and persecuted in this country than Muslims. Because
    a country has Christians living in it does not neccesarily mean it is a Christian country. The US could more accurately be said to be an atheist or agnostic country.
     
  11. Kyklos

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    I looks like a wide world religious war is heating up--just what the Mafia-fascists Washington D.C. whorehouse has worked so hard and so long for in the Middle East by overthrowing dozens of countries to establish torture state dictatorships. Boeing stocks are up! Other military corporations, all Republicans, and corporate Demorats can't believe their good luck--profits, profits, profits! The Ameircan/ Contra death squads has been revived to do more of g-ds work. Rape, massive murder, and robbery pay great dividends! The joy, the unspeakable joy of world wide religious mass murder. And a heated up world religious war just after Easter. In American cultist fascist theology you can't have Easter without mass murder first otherwise who is going to resurrected? It's a miracle! There is a g-d after all---money, money, money...blood money! There are no terrorist acts in the world that the US does not have directly or indirect responsibility.
     
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  12. Jeannette

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    Whoever supports the UN financially, controls the UN. What it doesn't control is the Security Council - thank God for that. Putin said he would end the unipolar world, and he did.






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    Yeah when Muslims kill Christians its cause stuff.
     
  14. Canell

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    Don't mind her, apparently she is a Muslim.
     
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    Doubtful.

    Probably a leftist who would never set foot in an Islamic country.
     
  16. Canell

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    So, it is even worse! ;)
    Her favorite people are the Palestinians. :laughing:
     
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    This incident also shows that theism is primarily a weapon of war and a key concept in all state propaganda. Theism has always been a instrument of war.
     
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    Now they identified the culprit, I'm curious what would happen. Globally, posting "you won't get my hatred" and "no amalgam" twitter posts are a white people reaction.
    Let's hope they don't get as radical than in Burma.
     
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    Banish Muslims from Sri Lanka, I guess?
     
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    I'm not sure. Sri lanka is an island. Burma terrorized rohingya until they flee to the neighbour Bangladesh, land they could reach by walking. If Sri Lanka wanted to banish muslims (or even christian), they would have to get a country of reception, and I suppose that many muslims country would refuse, either because they can't or because that could give ideas to other country heavily touched by terrorism.
     
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    It's been confirmed that the terrorists are all from Sri Lanka and are an Islamic terrorist group. The government believes that an attack of that magnitude couldn't have happened without an international connection. I don't doubt that some country is involved, but not officially - maybe Turkey or Saudi Arabia.
     
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    The terrorist of November 2015 were quite organized aswell. As far as I know they got support from ISIS officers. Couldn't it be the pakistanis ? They're not reputed to be the most peacefull people on earth.
     
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    Kyklos, only someone whose mind has been warped by hate-filled propaganda could spout such vile, incendiary, fantasies.
     
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    I'm not too sure about the ISIS part, since many jihadists are returning from Syria. The authorities do believe there is an international connection though. What a pity that like Libya which had the highest standard of living in Africa - and that we destroyed, Sri Lanka had the highest standard of living in S.E. Asia.

    The authorities were warned by Muslims that an attack was imminent, but not having experience with attacks on Christian holidays, they didn't take the necessary precautions.

    I looked into Sri Lanka and found out the Muslims are only 9% and the Christians 7%. They have Madrassas and also a lot of grievances of past injustices by the Portuguese, British and Dutch colonists. I think someone's arousing it, I mean what better way to arouse hatred and anger than by harping on past grievances.

    A pity they can't look at the twig in their own eyes and not at the splinter in others. I'm thinking of the towns along the sea in Italy and Spain and how all the inhabitants had left so they wouldn't end up on the slave markets of the Barbary pirates.
     
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    If it was Pakistanis and the way the situation is now, wouldn't they be attacking the Hindus in Sri Lanka? When I said Turkey, I'm thinking of how Erdogan and Devotoglu would go to nations with Sunni or Turkic minorities and arouse them.

    Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey also supported Al Nusra, and they are the most fanatical towards Christians.
     
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