20 percent Black support for Trump

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And why are Democrats allowing BLM mobs to destroy cities? To beat Trump.

    But the reality may be something a bit different from the narrative the media would have people believe.

    Before the virus pandemic lots of news stories mentioned Trump gaining big numbers among blacks:

    Trump's Approval Rating With Black Voters May Be Higher
    https://www.blackenterprise.com/tru...-black-voters-may-be-higher-than-you-thought/

    New polls show black support for Trump surging | Newsdaywww.newsday.com › Opinion › Commentary
    https://www.newsday.com/opinion/commentary/black-voters-donald-trump-support-1.39184208

    Trump approval rating with blacks now at 36%, Rasmussen ...
    USA TODAY: Latest World and US News - USATODAY.com 2018/08/16
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-african-americans-rasmussen-poll/1013212002/

    Why these black former Democrats are voting for Trump in 2020nypost.com › 2020/02/29 ›
    https://nypost.com/2020/02/29/why-these-black-new-yorkers-are-voting-for-trump-in-2020/

    Here is a Real Clear Politics story that mentions it could be at about 20%:Could Trump Win 20 Percent of the African-American Vote in 2020?https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...the_african-american_vote_in_2020_138385.html

    Some polls have indicated that Trump's approval rating among black voters is close to 20 percent. That is far higher than the 8 percent of the African-American vote that Trump received on Election Day 2016. A recent, admittedly controversial Rasmussen Reports poll showed African-American approval of Trump at 36 percent.

    Even 20 percent African-American support for Trump would all but dismantle Democratic Party presidential hopes for 2020. Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election with 88 percent of the black vote. That was about a six-point falloff from Barack Obama's share of the black vote in 2012. But far more importantly, an estimated 2 million of the African-American voters who cast ballots for Obama in 2012 simply did not show up at the polls in 2016 to vote for the off-putting Clinton. Even a small drop in African-American turnout or anything less than the usual 85 percent to 90 percent supermajority for a Democratic presidential candidate on Election Day can prove fatal.
     
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    If there is anywhere close to 20% approval of Trump in the Black community, the Democrats can't win (fairly) this election. But I don't trust polls and I suspect the October surprise against Trump will probably be something racial to try to tamp this out.
     
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    I do not believe Trump has 20% Black voter support. I would be very surprised if he had 10% Black voter support.
    I can tell you a demographic that will be voting against Trump in 2020---all the young Hispanics who turned 18 yrs. old since 2016. :nod:
    Bye, bye Trump!
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well now we might have some idea why the mainstream media has been trying so hard to stir up racial issues, ahead of the election.
     
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    That may have backfired.
     
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    I do not trust any poll that says Trump has 20% of the black vote
     
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    so Trump can stop trying to cheat to win then?
     
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    There isn't any Trump cheating. That's your guy's specialty.

    Any idea what the October surprise is going to be?
     
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    Why do you not believe Trump has 20% of the black vote? Are you the emperor of black people?
     
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    Trump was impeached for trying to cheat - he is still doing it
     
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    HaHa! You'll buy anything!
     
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    and you will deny anything, everyone knows what I said was fact, even most republicans... they just tried to convince themselves he learned his lesson when he got caught
     
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    Weird, I just said a variation of this in another thread, but facts need to be based on objective reality, not simply your feelings on the matter. If you have actual evidence to back up your facts, I'm open to it, but I doubt you have some sort of proof that wasn't already presented during impeachment.
     
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    Com'on Man! They ain't black!!!!:banana:
     
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    I am a very observant person who has common sense. That's why I don't believe Trump has 20% of the Black vote. :aww:
     
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    because if they vote for Trump..... They ain't black!!! Com'on Man!!!:applause:
     
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    92 percent of Black registered voters support Biden over President Donald Trump......well, it's probably more than that now that Kamala is on board.
     
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    Didn't know blacks liked half/black Kamala given her imprisonment record of them and her slaveholding ancestors?
     
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    Somebody has not been paying attention.
     
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    Well...... you tell her.
     
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    It looks like 20 percent may indeed have been an accurate assessment.


    November 4, 2020
    Black men shift slightly toward Trump in record numbers, polls show
    according to the NBC News poll of early and Election Day voters.

    Eighty percent of Black men supported Joe Biden, down slightly from Hilary Clinton’s 82 percent in 2016 but significantly down from Barack Obama’s level of support among Black men in 2012 and 2008.

    In Obama’s first presidential campaign, 95 percent of Black male voters and 96 percent of Black women chose him. Four years later, support from Black women remained at 96 percent for Obama's 2012 re-election, while the figure for Black men slid to 87 percent.

    In 2016, when the nominee was Hillary Clinton, Black men dropped further to 82 percent while Black women’s support for Clinton remained high at 94 percent. Biden came close to matching that this year, garnering the support of 91 percent of Black women.

    Support for the Democratic presidential candidate in general appears to be slipping among Black women as well, but to a much smaller degree. Biden still enjoyed the support of more than 9 out of every 10 Black female voters.

    About 26 percent of Black men who had a high school diploma or less supported Trump.
    22 percent of Black men with bachelor's degrees and 20 percent of Black men with advanced degrees supported him.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...ward-trump-record-numbers-polls-show-n1246447

    However, it also appears that even though Trump has been able to win a larger percentage of Black votes than any Republican Presidential candidate since Eisenhower in 1960, that may not have been enough to win the election.
     
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    What's wrong? Is this too complicated for you or are you being dishonest on purpose. You said he would get 20% of the black vote, not black men. Why are you being deceptive?

    Biden got 90% of the black vote

    https://apnews.com/article/election...reak-georgia-7a843bbce00713cfde6c3fdbc2e31eb7
     
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    I apologize. I overlooked the fact that there was a difference.

    These are still only exit polls though, and we do not really truly know for certain the exact statistical figures, since this type of data is not actually collected.


    (and a correction, 11% of the Black vote would only be about the same that Bush (Jr) got during his second term at the height of his popularity, substantially higher than either of the Republican candidates that ran against Obama, but that isn't really saying much)
     
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