2000+ fatal VAERS reports in 2021

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  1. HurricaneDitka

    HurricaneDitka Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to have a fairly calm conversation about the increased numbers of fatal VAERS reports this year. The raw data that undergirds this conversation can be found at https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html

    Just at a high level, for previous years we had this many fatal VAERS reports ("fatal" being where the 'DIED' column has a 'Y' value):

    Year: # of fatal VAERS reports
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    2010: 161
    2011: 173
    2012: 166
    2013: 129
    2014: 131
    2015: 149
    2016: 177
    2017: 120
    2018: 164
    2019: 183
    2020: 166

    That brings us to this year. So far, in 2021, for data through March 19th:

    2021: 1,957

    To what would you attribute this massive increase in fatal VAERS reports?
     
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    phoenyx Well-Known Member

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    Good find, thanks.
     
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  3. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, good find.

    I'm under the impression that the British system is mandatory, while the US system is voluntary. If true, this seems odd, at least ripe for abuse.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    I would attribute that sharp increase to the covid jabs which came out very late 2020 and didn't start getting mass administered until 2021.

    And for anyone who thinks that these are very small meaningless numbers, only a very small fraction of all cases get reported to VAERS, and when the prior ten years are all within 120-180 reports and roughly 1/3 of this year is already at just under 2,000 reports, that's a big deal...
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. VAERS isn't verified or fact checked. Basically, anyone can report anything they want.
    2. Way more people are getting vaccinated, therefore the likelihood of someone dying, regardless of cause, within a short time after a vaccine is higher.
    3. Even if we assume that these deaths are the result of the vaccine, the mortality rate is multiple orders of magnitude below covid's.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is a grossly misinformed statement.

    It completely ignores the many failures of the PCR tests. It presumes that the VAERS data is invalid.
     
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    (((((Sigh))))). ONE MORE TIME,!

    VAERS is RAW data. It is the unverified reports and anyone can add to the data and make a report

    now one more tine
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, great Eleuthera, please enlighten us with more links to quacks and conspiracy theorists explaining how wrong the scientific consensus is.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The many failures of the PCR tests have been posted and discussed here at PF many times. You disregarded them then, and you will disregard them now. Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme in the US today.
     
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    Simple, conspiracy theorist anti-masking anti-vaxxing dbags making **** up. Its an open submission website, it has no regulation or verification. Anyone can go on there and make any claim they want.

    Anti-Vaxxers Misuse Federal Data to Falsely Claim COVID Vaccines Are Dangerous
    https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjp...to-falsely-claim-covid-vaccines-are-dangerous

    The COVID-19 “Vaccine Holocaust”: The latest antivaccine messaging
    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-covid-19-vaccine-holocaust-the-latest-antivaccine-messaging/
     
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    So your theory is that people are just simply making up false reports of deaths? Any evidence to support that idea?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Anthony Fauci and all the rest of the pseudo scientists can go on TV and make any claim they want. That's how propaganda works. The talking heads on TV never ever ask an intelligent question.

    If you can get them asking the wrong questions, you don't have to worry about the answers.
     
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    Ahhh, what a world we live in.

    First, the doubters claim that the 500,000 reported Covid deaths is a government number that can't be trusted.

    Now, those same people are claiming 1,600 deaths reported on a government website are gospel truth that
    the vaccine is killing them.

    Whatever.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There have an amount getting close to 100 MILLION jabs now.

    Anyone who wants can post a death on the VAERS list without any checking, any verification while we have virtually no verifed deaths makes this list a joke.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    VAERS is a joke. It is by design just the tip of the iceberg.

    I heard some doctor describe, I think it was Peter McCullough, actually filling out the VAERS form. It is lengthy and trivial, perhaps by design. It discourages participation.
     
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    The penalty for falsifying a report are severe fines and jail time. You really thing a doctor will risk that? I take it you think you know more than a doctor.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    4,400 deaths. No financial incentive to report like there was for reporting a Covid case.
     
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    There are countless news headlines about people dying right after receiving the death jab... I suspect that many more will die during this upcoming flu season...
     
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    Still pushing the deliberate miss interpretation I see. Still not willing to admit the it’s on the VAERS website that deaths should not be linked directly to the vaccine just because there is a report. Need the link to the FAQs again?
     
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    You mean like the Covid cases and deaths?
     

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