2016 U.S Election Thread

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  1. goober

    goober New Member

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    Exactly, the Bush plan, which costs an extra $1000/ea for everyone who chooses private insurance, because without that subsidy, private insurance could never compete with Medicare.......

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    OK, then what do you think Paul Ryans plan is......?
     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Dems don't need a Hispanic on the ticket to win the Presidency. But he might bring out some more Hispanic voters who will vote for the Dem candidates in the House and Senate races. A Hispanic candidate could turn off the regular Dem voters given the issue of Hispanics flooding into the country. So the Dems could lose some States where the vote has been close. A Hispanic candidate won't help the Dems win any of the Red States.
     
  3. goober

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    Hispanic turnout in Texas is 28%, get that to 60% (Hispanic turnout in Florida) and Texas is a Blue state.
    Energizing communities that have low turnout is the key to the Democrats dominating the political process.
    And doing so will benefit these communities immensely, communities that turnout on election day, get courted by both parties, communities that don't turn out get ignored.
     
  4. Lil Mike

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    OK I admit you have me confused. What $1000.00 fee, and aren't they all private RX plans? What sort of government prescription plan do you think they have?
     
  5. goober

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    It's a $1000 subsidy from the taxpayer, or actually from the bondholders, its not funded.
    The highly efficient private sector can't compete with Medicare without a $1000 per person subsidy.....
    You can opt for the traditional Medicare version.....that's not private, and it doesn't get the subsidy....
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Dems don't need Texas in order to win the Presidency. They would need to pickup over 1.3 million votes for the Dem candidate to carry Texas. In 2012 only 7,962,799 people voted out of a total 13,594,264, which was the highest number of registered voters in Texas history. So 5,631,465 registered Texas voters saw no reason at all to vote for any of the four+ Presidential candidates. Assuming that 40% of the no-shows were registered Dems they could have easily picked up the 1.3 million votes needed if they had simply limped into the polling booths. But they didn't care. And since the Dems don't need their votes they don't care either. It would cost too much to get them out to vote for Dem Representatives and Senators. That's why we end up with dummies such as Cruz.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    OK now I know why I didn't know what you were talking about; you don't know what you're talking about. There is no "traditional" Medicare plan for prescription drugs. There is only the Part D plan.
     
  8. goober

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    Because rather than have Medicare cover drugs, the private sector provides Medicare Part D plans, which receive a $1000 subsidy, to keep them at the level that it would have cost to have Medicare provide the service.
     
  9. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do agree with the theory that Mitt could announce his campaign as late as September 2015 and almost immediately take the lead.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/...hafbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=haupdate
     
  10. birddog

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    I certainly don't agree with Mitt's handling of his last campaign, but it is true that most everything he predicted in the debates has happened.

    We would be far better off in every way if he had been elected. Obama won by lying about Benghazi, Obamacare, and everything else, which speaks poorly for those who voted for him.

    Mitt is Presidential and competent, unlike Obama, and I would be happy to vote for Mitt again.
     
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    I didn't hear anything from him but more government programs and no actual solutions. Not even that "Cleric" of the Right was willing to run on a moral platform of bearing true witness to our own laws.
     
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    Perhaps you didn't "hear" because you didn't want to hear?
     
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    There was nothing but more government programs blah...blah...blah, and no actual solutions, and no moral mandate to even bear true witness to our own laws, from that "cleric" of the Right. You are welcome to cite your view on this forum and the policies involved, and even look for those policies in past posts on this forum.
     
  14. birddog

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    The same goes for you. It's a matter of interpretation of the intent of the candidate, and the believability of the candidate. Of course bias entered in, but I'm reminded of the famous quote that "if you voted for Obama twice, you are way too ignorant to argue with!" Hopefully, you are not one of those.
     
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    Yes, it does. I am willing to vote for the party that ends our drug war, solves simple poverty, and gets us into fusion in eight years or less.
     
  16. ProgressivePatriot

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    So what if he got a few predictions right? The real questions are would he have prevented these crisis and how would he have handled them? And, how many more ground wars would we have been in by now at enormous cost to the nation in money and young lives?

     
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    We would be far better off overall if Mitt had been elected instead of the lying scumbucket we have! Obama has handled nothing well!
     
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    Care to elaborate? You can't just spew that kind of clap trap without explaining it and backing it up with evidence
     
  19. Lil Mike

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    Look, your credibility on this is pretty low since you were trying to say that Medicare had a "traditional" prescription plan. Maybe you ought to document anything you say about Part D from now on because your record so far has been abysmal.
     
  20. birddog

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    Can to, because I have not seen any evidence that he has accomplished anything well!

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    I ended my conversation with him some time ago because it became obvious he didn't know much.:smile:
     
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    So you have nothing to support your inane assertions. You can't actually explain how Willard would have been better. OK.
     
  22. birddog

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    Please take a remedial course in discernment. Geeez!
     
  23. goober

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    You're right it's Medicare Advantage that costs Medicare $1000 more per participant in the private plans than in traditional Medicare.
     
  24. DennisTate

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    In my opinion one of the reasons why Mitt would have been better is that he would not have quite so rabidly anti-Israel..... which tends to get us into trouble with some UFO/ Watcher/ alien dudes with some serious technological capability that the USA should not under estimate?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/other-off-topic-chat/338698-will-ufos-assist-bringing-peace-world.html


    Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????



    I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:






    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIoHE6P8gOk

    Uploaded on Nov 6, 2011


     
  25. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My opinion is that although Mitt was an impressive candidate the G. O. P. itself was so negatively viewed because of our denial of reality in so many areas that Mitt could not carry the Republican Party unless she rises up in at least some major areas.

    The Carl Cantrell alternative theory on how best to combat climate change could be the key to turning the G. O. P. political fates around.

    Hurricane Sandy made everybody think about New Orleans … so......…



    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html

    The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!



    Did you know that there is an Islamic prophecy that the Islamic desert regions would be turned green in the latter days?????

    This topic is of special interest to me because I live about a hundred miles from the Bay of Fundy. I live five kms from the ocean on the eastern part of Nova Scotia. In my area the difference between low tide to high tide is about one meter! The land form of the Bay of Fundy has a funnelling effect on tidal waters and so parts of the Fundy have a difference of fifteen to seventeen meters between low to high tide!

    The question on my mind would be if ocean levels were to rise about thirty centimeters in my part of Nova Scotia, would they rise by four or five meters along parts of the Fundy????

    There are 143,000 acres of farmland taken back from the Fundy by dikes that are probably in the position of the proverbial canary in a coal mine in relation to rising ocean levels!

    Every cubic meter of H2O added to the water table of nations in the Middle EAst will NOT be on top of New Orleans, Florida, Holland, Bangladesh or those 143,000 acres along the Fundy!!!!!

    I felt a huge sense of relief when I first heard about The Sahara Forest Project!

    https://www.facebook.com/SaharaForestProject
     

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