2018, What Armed Self Defense Looks Like

Most people who carry, carry because they like the idea, not because of any real threat. It's a state of mind.

 

No, they only need to carry when they are attacked. Can you tell me with 100% certainly when that is?

 

All due respect but....You don't go to risky places, yet still carry because "you don't know when the bad things will happen" in the places you DO go to....how is it you go anywhere at all? Seems you think everywhere is risky.

 

Think about what you wrote. Don't you see the difference between the two, you and someone in an area with Brown Bears?

 

Yes because no one with common sense has ever been murdered or robbed.

 

Then go about actually demonstrating such as actually being fact, rather than just opinion.

 

millions of people do every day

 

I always think about what I wrote. You wrote "..."no one needs to carry every day". That's certainly true, and worthless to boot. You only need a gun when you really need a gun, and that's when you're attacked. You don't know if you need a gun on September 12, 2018 until that day is over.

In 2016 there were 17,250 murders, 95,730 forcible rapes, 332,198 robberies and 803,007 aggravated assaults. That's a total of 1,248,185 violent crimes or 3410 per day. How many of those victims needed a gun and didn't have one with them?

 

Joe Citizen (as in, not law enforcement of any type or military) doesn't NEED to carry a gun. Carrying a gun is a CHOICE. Just like not carrying a gun is a choice.

 

"not everyone" is not the same as "no one".

 

Is self defense at the moment of attack a "need"?

 

No, it's a matter of degree of need, percentages, etc. You don't seem to get that.

 

How many of the murders, rapes and aggravated assaults did the victim know the perp? In other words didn't see it coming therefore it didn't matter if they had a gun or not.
How many of those 1.2M had a gun but were unable to use it in time?
You can't just look at just the numbers. There is usually more to the story than just numbers.
People can argue all day long about what if this and what if that. Bottom line is if it makes you feel safer to be in public with a gun then go for it. We all need and want to feel safe when we go about our days. For some that means carrying a gun while others feel completely safe without a gun. To each his own.

 

Well sure. I just don't feel I'm going to get attacked going to Home Depot for supplies. My wife doesn't feel she's going to get attacked when she goes food shopping. If you live in an area where you are afraid you're going to get attacked that is unfortunate.

 

How many of the aforementioned 1.2 million people were somewhere they were not afraid of being attacked?

 

No idea. Maybe many of them. Maybe not. As I said...can't just look at the numbers. There's always more to the story.

 

Then actually go about proving such. Do not merely claim that such is the case, actually prove that such is indeed the case, and not simply some opinion by one who has never felt the need to regularly carry a firearm when going about their daily routine.

 

So you HAVE to carry a gun, do you? Really? It's not your choice? Is there some law forcing you to carry a gun?

 

Such is not proof that the claim presented on the part of yourself is factually accurate or otherwise correct.

It was stated as being a matter of fact on the part of yourself, that no private citizen needs to carry a firearm while going about their daily activities. However it has not been proven on the part of yourself that the claim actually is fact. It is opinion, it is supposition, it is speculation, but until it is substantiated with actual evidence it is not fact.

 

http://www.fox4news.com/news/witness-shoots-fort-worth-carjacking-suspect

Store clerk interrupted a car jacking and may have saved a mom’s life.

 

Carrying a gun is a choice. You know this. Stop being a child.

 

It starts as a choice. It can manifest into a need without much warning

 

What is apparently not understood on the part of yourself, is that one doing what is needed of them is still a choice that they made for themselves. Therefore, once again, go about actually proving the claim made by yourself. Prove that no private citizen actually needs to carry a firearm as they go about their daily routine.

Until actual, legitimate proof is presented in support of the concept to demonstrate that it is indeed fact, it will ultimately be nothing more than the opinion of yourself.

 

You NEED to wear clothes when you go out in public. You NEED to drive on the right side of the road in the US. You NEED to drink water or you’ll die. No one NEEDS to carry a gun. Again I’ll ask you...is there a law forcing you to carry a gun? Carrying a gun is a choice. You know this. You’re being silly.

 

Factually incorrect. One need not wear clothing when going out into public. If they choose they can proceed without, it is simply illegal for them to do such. But it is still their choice.

Factually incorrect. One can operate a motor vehicle on whatever side of the road they wish. They simply cannot do such in a legal manner.

Meaning one must actually make the choice and conclude that what they want is to continue existing, for whatever reason may serve at motivation.

Then actually go about proving such to be the case. Prove that no private citizen actually needs to carry a firearm as they go about their daily routine.

Until actual, legitimate proof is presented in support of the concept to demonstrate that it is indeed fact, it will ultimately be nothing more than the opinion of yourself.

One can choose to abide by the law or break the law. Simply because something is legally mandated means nothing.

Once again, get to work in demonstrating proof of concept to the notion that no private citizen actually needs to carry a firearm as they go about their daily routine.