2020 Independents Less Likely To Vote For Democrats

Thanks. I understand. I’m split between parties on social issues and economic though. And disagree with both on some issues. They are all too authoritarian to suit me. In the spirit of the thread, unless something unforeseen happens, I’ll probably have to vote Republican in self defense in 2020.

 

There was no quid pro quo. This is common knowledge but Schiff still pushes this lie.

Pelosi still changed the House rules.

Nadler is still a scumbag.

You support these slimeballs. You are not an independent.

 

Fair enough... I'll just have to hope you are from a state where your vote doesn't matter... My state will attempt to vote Trump out, with even more vigor than they they tried to prevent him in 2016.

 

It's not remotely common knowledge about the QPQ... There are 2 gleaming examples out there, military aid and WH meeting...

The ambassador to Ukraine believed there was QPQ in play. He couldn't state it any clearer... If Congress was going to be allowed to interview State Department witnesses, he'd be a great one to hear from...

Having Trump and his sycophants saying there was no QPQ isn't really much of a defense...

 

Search and let me know.
Apparently common enough.
A homeowner might feel a sense of security negotiating a mortgage restructuring
and another bank of the bank, secretly proceeds with legal foreclosure.

During your Search you might also review banks that paid fines
for bad behavior during the Foreclosure Crisis. Deutschebank was one I remember.


Thanks

 

It doesn’t really matter. One of the reddest states. I don’t like everything about Trump but most of the Dem candidates are orders of magnitude worse in my opinion. It’s always the lesser of the evils. Except in 2016 I abstained from evil completely.

 

Nonsense. You are repeating the same lies. Stop pretending to be independent.

 

All they had was election year level turnout in California and New York. Obama lost more seats in 2010.

 

I follow independents for my forecasts on another site. yesterday I received the latest YouGov poll. It shows 33% of independents want Trump to run for reelection, 45% don't. Question 74

Those numbers have been within a point or two over the last six months. Independents view Trump 39% favorably, 48% unfavorably. Again outside of a point or two rise or drop, those numbers really haven't changed either. Question 56A. So let's take a look at the generic presidential poll. Question 43. 29% of independents say they'll vote for Trump, 26% of independents say they'll vote for the Democratic candidate. 19% state it depends and it is this column that fascinates me. I take "it Depends," as meaning their vote depends on who the democrats nominate. So the ball is in the democrats hands, who they hand that ball off to may very well determine who wins in 2020.

 

Exactly but to democrats, losing is the new winning.

 

Obama created the mess in Syria by his obsession with regime change and Trump is making it worse. No heroes in either party. And Republicans control the Senate. Focus on the election.

 

As of this moment, I guess I am going to vote for a democrat in 2020... Ann Richards. But she’s dead and won’t be the nominee.

I’m certainly not voting for either of the two candidates that will be foisted upon us come next year.

 

That is why Bernie started his Revolution in 2016 and the Progressives are remaking the DP into something that DOES represent We the People instead of only the wealthy and the Wall Street Casino Bosses.

 

The Republicans LOST the House by 40 seats to the Dems/Progressives in 2018.

 

The BLOTUS is doing way more harm than good by betraying our Kurdish allies. Our Middle East policies will be in shambles by the time the orange wrecking ball is finished. For that matter our entire foreign policy will be a worthless charade that the next POTUS will have to rebuild from scratch.

 

Blaming Obama is DISINGENUOUS!

The Republican/Libertarian FISCAL MALFEASANCE policies that CAUSED the housing Ponzi Scam also prevented the Wall Street Casino Bosses from being PROSECUTED for those crimes.

 

Has there been any polling of Independents using the Dem front runners against the BLOTUS and if so how did they fare with that demographic?

 

Baseless bovine excrement without any credible substantiation.

 

YouGov is great at breaking the over all numbers down. The other polls, not so much. You can scroll through and have a look at all the polls here:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

 

Thanks!

I did find this poll from about a month ago.

https://www.pollingreport.com/2020wh_g.htm

In essence Independents do not support the BLOTUS by a 2:1 margin. (66:29).

 

the House has many more republican seats open and republicans lost the house, wish they also had that many seat open in the Senate, but they will in 2020

 

if Trump is impeached by the Senate it will be harder for dems, but if Trump is on the ticket, dems will be out to vote in force

 

It happened well into the Obama Watch.

Not the first week.​

Obama like the Clintons helped make the Democratic Party
the second party of Wall St.
leaving Main St. to eat their sins.

 

I think we have to be careful here. There's no doubt that more independents don't like Trump than do. No doubt more independents don't want Trump to run for reelection than do. No doubt more independents disapprove of the job Trump is doing as president than do or that more independents hold an unfavorable view of Trump than do.

Even so, it might not be a cakewalk in November 2020 that a lot of Democrats think it will be. Independents didn't like Trump back in 2016 either. 40% of independents had a favorable view of him, 57% of independents an unfavorable or negative view. Question 11. Yet Trump won the independent vote and thus the White House. Why, Question 10. Only 27% of independents viewed Hillary favorably, 70% unfavorably.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

This is the main reason I say 2020 depends on who the Democrats nominate. Nominate someone attractive to independents, they'll win in a landslide. Nominate someone who is as disliked as Trump or disliked more as Hillary Clinton was in 2016, a repeat of 2016 is certainly possible.

It's up to the Democrats to figure out which candidate falls into which category. One reason Hillary lost among many is she failed to ignite her base. In November of 2016 the Democrats had a six point advantage over Republicans in party affiliation. But only 3 point advantage among the voters who turned out to vote. In other words, Republicans turned out to vote in a much higher percentage than Democrats knocking the Democratic advantage in party strength, having the larger base down a few pegs.

 

They should be out in force regardless.. the job isn't done until R's control nothing...

That's the new "Mandate of Heaven"... I have spoken!!