2020 Independents Less Likely To Vote For Democrats

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  1. 2HBStrat

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    What has Trump done for "the black community?"
    Johnson? When was the last time you voted?
     
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    fake news, Trump has done nothing for the black community, in fact he has done much to raise up white nationalist instead
     
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    Can't speak for other states but the progressives in California refuse to have anything to do with the current executive branch of the federal government and won't allow the Trump administration to do jack **** in California's black communities.

    And in California it's really hard to keep track of black communities because of black flight, black Americans fleeing their neighborhoods because of Mexican and Central American occupation of their neighborhoods.
     
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    I can see independents going full support for Trump. Why would anyone want to return power to establishment politicians who want to rob the American people blind?
     
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    Now that's fake news.. Please highlight Trump's policies that raised up white nationalist?

    Here is what he has done for the black community:
    VERIFY: Has Trump given more money to HBCUs than any other president?

    Black Unemployment at Lowest Rate in 17 Years ← And Dem's will point to that this was Obama's legacy, however unemployment during Obama's tenure was at it's best at only 25% unemployment.

    Advancing prison reform ← It was the Clinton's with his 3 strikes your out that saw a MASSIVE upswing in incarcerated blacks.

    Though African Americans and Hispanics make up approximately 32% of the US
    population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015.



     
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    The OP is An OPINION Piece (and the "conclusion" reached by the RW LOON (who wrote it) is just Bias-Confirming "Speculative BS").:bored:
     
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    You forgot to mention he's a white supremacist :banana:
     
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    2016
     
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    Anybody catch the democrat freak show last night?
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    1.191 Billion. In case someone doubts your figure, here's a link.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

    I don't know and never gave it a thought as to where the money went. I know she spent quite a bit in Georgia on political ads. I couldn't turn on TV without seeing her ads. I seen very few of Trump's. It does seem that after the primaries that Hillary lost that fire in the belly. With a couple of her almost fainting spells, quite a lot of people thought she might be sick or suffering from something.

    I agree that she took the her backyard states for granted, the so called blue wall states. She out raised and out spent Trump by almost 2-1 and still lost. Someone is bound to write a book sooner or later, maybe we'll find out then.
     
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    Obama lowered the unemployment rate much more then Trump as have other Presidents, Trump was just riding the Obama wave

    no use arguing with you on this, everyone knows the harm Trump has done to minorities via his escalating racial tensions
     
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    how has Trump tried... can you give few examples were dems stopped him
     
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    Blaming Obama for the racial division caused by white nationalists is disingenuous.
     
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    I live in California and I didn't see a single Clinton ad and she still won the state. There are so many ways to siphon off money. The question remains where did all that money go?
     
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    We had a TREATY with Ukraine when Russia invaded and Obama did NOTHING! Talk about abandoning Allies! I may not agree with the current Presidential decision re: the Kurds, but it pales in comparison to the U.S. not upholding their end of an actual TREATY!! Not to mention, McConnell has absolutely nothing on Harry Reid when it comes to refusing to bring House bills to a vote. Your post and position reeks with hypocrisy.
     
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    That was NOT a mutual DEFENSE treaty so there was ZERO OBLIGATION for the USA to intervene with military force!

    Utterly asinine to try and berate Obama for something like that but it does go towards exposing the DESPERATE LENGTHS that BLOTUS supporters are now going to these days.
     
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    Any Democratic candidate in California is going to get 60% of the vote give or take whether that candidate be Charles Manson or FDR. The money, I don't know. As I said, I never thought of it. I just thought it amazing that the candidate that was outspent 2-1 won. First time a presidential candidate with less money won since 1964.

    This got me thinking since Hillary said they were dead broke when they left the White House. Now,

    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a12831454/hillary-clinton-net-worth/
     
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    Pretending "white nationalists" had anything to do with Obama's racism and divisiveness would be a lie.

    Obama set race relations back 50 years all by himself, nobody made him do it (unless you want to point some blame at Michelle Obama, Al Sharpton, dear Reverend, and any of Obama's other white-hating racist pals.)
     
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    Onus is ENTIRELY on those BLAMING Obama to PROVE that it was his fault and not a single white nationalist has ever produced anything credible to substantiate that lie about Obama.
     
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    ICE under the Trump administration tries to deport illegal aliens who are already sitting in the county jail. Under California's protected class laws sometimes known as sanctuary city laws, local LE protects the illegal alien from ICE and releases the illegal alien who goes back to the former black neighborhood that blacks fled from and goes back to the job that was once a black American's job.
     
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    No love lost I'm sure, my friend. No big deal either. I'm yet to see an "independent" thought in any of your posts; they're all the same as from any other Liberal.
     
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    I' m calling your bullshit, my friend :)
     
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    How are we defining Independent? I'm registered to a third party, but I never vote straight ticket. If Texas turns truly purple, this election may be an exception.

    I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Trump. Ever. If Texas were to turn purple, however, I'd have to consider voting for the Dems. I've used the fact that my state isn't a swing state, and thus my vote doesn't matter in Presidential elections, as an reason to simply vote my conscience. If I lived in swing state and had to be more practical, I'm not sure if the Dems could come up with a candidate so terrible that I'd be tempted to vote for Trump again. Hell, even running Hillary again would be a coin flip at least.
     
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    I particularly loved Warren’s quote,
    "Let's say you're on the campaign trail and a supporter approaches you and says, 'Senator, I'm old-fashioned, and my faith teaches me that marriage is between one man and one woman.' What is your response?" asked Morgan Cox, board chairman of the Human Rights Campaign, which co-hosted the event.


    "Well, I'm going to assume it's a guy who said that, and I'm going to say, 'Then just marry one woman. I'm cool with that,'" Warren said, to laughs and applause from the audience.

    As the clapping subsided, the senator paused before going in for the kill — "'assuming you can find one' — drawing sustained applause and cheers from the crowd.


    And all y’all can dig up on her is she was misinformed about her heritage (and corrected the record as soon as she found out the truth) and was passed over in employment because she was pregnant.
    Definitely the primary winner.
    Now on to VP selection
     
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    Anyone who claims that haven't seen immeasurably worse come straight from Trump is either lying to you, lying to themselves, or has their head so far in the sand they are hitting mantle.
     
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