2020 Independents Less Likely To Vote For Democrats

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  1. Paul7

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    LOL, Obama was the king of deficits, and with nothing to show for it.

    No, thank you Trump.

    What are they, cows?
     
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    Obama was trying to pull us out of a recession, while I didn’t like Obama and most of his policies were poorly implemented he at least had an excuse for massive deficit spending. trump has... well, he’s got his great and unmatched wisdom I guess.

    Thank you trump for further exploding the debt or for going on a spending spree to prop up failed economic practices — which are now being seen in the contracting manufacturing sector? You weren’t clear.

    They are zygotes
     
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    When Syria tragically collapsed into brutal civil war in 2011, Americans had two contending reactions. One was to stay the hell out since there was little they could do other than offer aid to relieve suffering. The other was to intervene big time in order to transform the Middle East.

    Naturally, the president, leading congressional Republicans and Democrats, and virtually the entire foreign policy community chose the second option. Never mind American interests, public opinion, fiscal responsibility, practical capabilities, and common sense. It was Washington’s job to reorder the world. What could possibly go wrong?

    Without seeking congressional approval, the Obama administration embarked on a multi-faceted campaign: oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who had not attacked or threatened America; find, train, and empower moderate insurgents to create a liberal democracy in Syria; use radical extremists, such as al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra, against really radical extremists, such as the Islamic State; expel Iranian forces, even though they represented a government with far more at stake in the conflict than America and had been welcomed by Damascus; convince Moscow, a Cold War ally of Syria, to advance Washington’s agenda; employ Syrian Kurds to act as America’s shock troops against ISIS; persuade Turkey, which profited greatly from the illicit ISIS oil trade, to combat the Islamic State; pacify Turkey while arming Syrian Kurds, which Ankara viewed as an existential threat; and occupy sovereign Syrian territory until the foregoing objectives had been achieved.

    It was the plan of a madman—or an arrogant, officious, ignorant social engineer with no understanding of human nature, the Middle East, or America. Predictably, the result was almost complete failure. The Islamic State was at least defeated, but it was also opposed by Syria, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Israel, Russia, European governments, the Gulf States, and America. Just some of those countries could have done the job, yet they had little need to contribute much once Washington had taken responsibility."

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/america-doesnt-belong-in-syria/
     
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    The 2030 "deadline" is not about "do it by then or be destroyed." It's an estimate of when we will be past the point of reversing global warming by any means. It doesn't mean we're going to die, but it does mean that more natual disasters, bigger fires, larger and more powerful storms, and rising sea level are going to displaces tens of millions of people.

    The damage is already expensive, and doing nothing will end up costing trillions more than the drastic steps outlined in the Green New Deal, which could actually create a stronger working class through all the new jobs it would create.

    I don't know about AOC's eating babies remark, but another thing the right gets wrong about the GND is that it would be a law, and not simply a resolution.
     
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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-american-conservative/

     
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    As far as HBCUs go, the President doesn't appropriate funds. Congress does. Black unemployment? Please consult a graph and familiarize yourself with the trend. Prison reform might be a decent point.
     
  7. Libby

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    Examples have been posted ad nauseum. If you either can't remember or are intentionally in denial, that speaks volumes about you. And if you couldn't see it yourself as it unfolded, well, again that speaks volumes about you.

    I began as an Obama supporter, but I have an open mind and open eyes, and I saw his divisiveness firsthand.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    In other words you can't produce a single CREDIBLE SUBSTANTIATION of your utterly BOGUS allegation about Obama.

    Got it!
     
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    No, that is not at all what I said.

    I'm not wasting my time proving water is wet, to someone who admits they don't even know what water is.

    If you cared you could do your own homework. I've been around long enough you should know I don't fall for the "prove water is wet" leftie games.
     
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  10. Wrathful_Buddha

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    I already knew this. It doesn't take a genius to figure out.
     
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    I put a sign on my lawn that said "Vote for tickle me Elmo" in 2012.
     
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    Ongoing FAILURE to substantiate your bogus allegations about Obama duly noted FTR!
     

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