2024 - the TIME of the INDEPENDENT

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    So, here's what has been happening for too long..

    One administration comes in, vows to reverse everything the prior administration has done, usually has house and senate to undo and redo. Then, during midterms, congress flips and there is division and nothing gets done.

    Another administration comes in, vows to reverse everything the prior administration has done, usually has house and senate to undo and redo. Then, during midterms, congress flips and there is division and nothing gets done

    UNDO - REDO - FLIP - UNDO - REDO - FLIP and so ON..

    So Obama comes in, passes ACA on a partisan basis, immediately gets punished in midterms by losing 63 seats in the house and 7 in senate, one of the worst losses for any party on record. The republicans vow to obstruct, there are government shutdowns, division, Obama unleashes a flurry of executive actions.

    Enter Donald Trump, who ran on reversing everything Obama did. Initially, has house and senate (as Obama did) and gets things done on a largely partisan basis. Mid terms come, house flips. There is unprecedented obstruction, something we have never seen before. Trump unleashes a series of execution orders.

    Biden gets voted into office, vows to reverse what Trump has done, has house and senate. Mid terms will come.... history repeat itself?

    Why do we keep doing this?

    What we need is this - An independent in the WH who hires and appoints both conservatives and progressives in the administration and ACTUALLY represents ALL Americans. Until then, the UNDO-REDO-FLIP-UNDO-REDO will continue...
     
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    The uniparty will continue until valid voting does.
     
  3. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    we need to destroy this two party system, we keep going in circles. It would be great for an administration to appoint progressives and conservatives to cabinet and represent the people, not not helf of the people. This makes 0 f sense. It's going in circles.
     
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    Agreed, but worthless without nationwide voting reform that would raise us at least to the level of third world elections.
     
  5. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ The most important thing is to resolve voter integrity. Without fraud-free elections nothing else matters. ✖
     
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    No third party candidate has a chance in hell of winning the Presidency. They only ever get maybe 3% of the vote...
     
  7. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    One party systems have FAR worse histories than two party systems.
    Wouldn't mind three parties - the current Hatfield and McCoy dance is worthless.
     
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    If Trump had won, you would be praising the election system. Whatever.
    You were not complaining about increased vote in ballots in Texas and Florida.
     
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    False.
     
  10. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Then you agree with me, that the Republican stole the election in Florida.
     
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    False.
     
  12. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    It's been proven. I read it on the internet.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that we know cheating the election is so easy, maybe Independents finally have a shot!
     
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    Well said. There is a term for doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
     
  15. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ You make a good point. " What goes around comes around ..."
     
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    Because the voting public doesn't have the knowledge or intelligence to fix it. Voting fixes nothing even though it could.
     

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