21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence

So, according to you, the many MAGAs on this forum who claim Trump won are a tiny minority and not at all representative of MAGAs in general.

 

It's more complicated than that though.

If you know that Biden won fair and square, that makes Trump a liar... or at the very least someone totally out of touch with reality.

How are you going to convince a MAGA who believes the system is rigged that it isn't and that we need to move on?

 

Trump has always had an ego. And would never concede defeat in anything because he does everything the best ever. I don't care if he has that quality. Trump voters not believing in the validity of the last election is not this country's biggest social concern.

 

Lol, they deliberately sat in the "safe space" on campus purely to push their political agenda and antagonize. Arrogant little punks!

 

There are a number of people who think the military should step in. I think that's crazy and would hurt our country.
Calling these people 'violent terrorists' is just leftist proproganda intended to vilify and justify the violation of rights of millions of Americans.

 

"safe space" segregation? ****. there's an issue with the entire concept. when you create a space that says "you are not allowed here" you invite confrontation.

If you think it's a good idea to have such spaces to promote such attitudes...don't get shocked when it blows up in your face and doesn't lead to the kumbaya moment you think it will.

 

So that makes him a demagogue who spreads a lie about the reliability of our democracy.

You are avoiding answering my question.

How are you going to convince a MAGA who believes the system is rigged that it isn't and that he need to move on?

 

I answered it already.

I'm not. Because I don't give a ****. Because it's not a big concern in my eyes as to the problems facing this country.

 

We have these spaces in all universities in Australia. Seems to work fine. Clearly those arrogant punks haven't heard of common sense.

Again, they were there specifically to antagonize.

 

The debate I have with you isn't whether this is a social problem.

It's that a large percentage of people in your party believe, unlike you, that Trump won and that the election is rigged.

At some point, they will have to reconnect with reality and move on, otherwise no other conservative candidate will be able to take over.

What will your arguments be to convince them?

 

Australia isn't dealing with or has the racist past it's trying to get over that the United States has. It also has what demographics again? Oh right.

https://www.infoplease.com/world/countries/ethnicity-and-race-by-countries

Ya. Don't compare Australia to the United States in this regards. Makes you look kind of silly. This will lead to bad outcomes. We abolished segregation in the 60's for good reason. Installing them again in any institution is just asinine and regressive. This is our country's biggest issue right now. Because pushing this nonsense is the popular narrative.

Trump lost. Get over it.

 

I think it might be dwindling

Certainly the “turn out” for Sept 18 does not support this

 

You ARE a joking aren’t you?
A) we had a “White Australia” Policy until the 2o60s
B) We stole wages, dignity and children from Aboriginal people
C) Until the referendum Aboriginal people were legally classified as “fauna” NOT a human

want me to go on?

What we did was turn the attitude around - haven’t got there completely but it is changing.

oh! And our census does not count “race” except for “indigenous Torres straight islander or Other”

 

You don't have a history of slavery you are trying to get over while at the same time the white population is equalizing out and now being vilified. You have NOTHING CLOSE to the melting pot that is the United States. You are currently hiding behind a 90 percent + white majority with some side order of guilt. Wake me up when the aboriginals are getting close to 50 percent of your population while at the same time they are vilifying white people.

THEN you can come at me with "but australia"...k?

 

You must listen/watch RW news to hear "all white people are racist".
I am white. I am not racist. Never been told I am racist. Nor do I hear it.

I have heard about system racism, which we were.

 

The one never impeached.

 

Oh! Are YOU in for a surprise!


It was called “black birding” stealing South Sea Islanders to work in the Cane fields

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbirding

And when I talked about the “stolen wages” that too was a form of slavery

http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UTSLRS/2013/14.pdf

Remember until the referendum they were legally fauna not human

 

Who's fault is it that while people don't want to move here? Or reproduce enough?

 

I try hard NOT to be racist

 

I'm not sure.

De-programming a MAGA is almost impossible.

We see it ourselves on this forum.

So that there are 21 million of them still drinking Trump's lies doesn't surprise me at all.

 

I have a feeling that even in the face of a dozen examples as to the growing narrative of white people being racist that you would cover your eyes and ears and proclaim ignorance.



Or maybe you were in her class? Who knows?

 

I am seeing some cracks though. There are right wing people here who have shown less support for trump now than six months ago. We saw that with Bush x he was hugely popular when president now most of the MAGA would not even acknowledge he is still breathing. Then there are the birthers - most of whom became MAGATS but now how many would admit they were birthers

it fades, it takes time but it fades

 

There is no common sense to your argument. Safe spaces in universities have nothing to do with 50s segregation.

Again, it's common sense. And I will come right back to the Twitter example that you used as an argument. The attire and attitude of these MAGA punks was designed to deliberately antagonize. End of.

When whites are a minority with a history of persecution and documented/statistical inequality get back to me.

 

I am correct. You get your info from RW sources.
That person has no impact on me. Not do I think anything of her opinion.
And that's all she has.

 

Any of this stuff, peer reviewed or externally confirmed. Quite frankly it sounds like: