3 charged in US with exporting drone parts to Arab shiite militant orginazation - Hezbollah

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    Two of the suspects, brothers Usama and Issam Hamade, are in custody in South Africa, while the third Samir 'Tony' Berro, remains at large; they alleged conspired to export to Lebanon electronics that can be used in drone guidance systems, one jet engine and 20 piston engines that can be used in drones, and a pair of digital video recording binoculars.
    The US Attorney's office for Minnesota said two of the suspects -- brothers Usama and Issam Hamade -- are now in custody in South Africa, while the third, Samir "Tony" Berro, remains at large. All three are Lebanese citizens. Usama "Prince Sam" Hamade also has South African citizenship, while Berro and Issam Hamade are also UK citizens.
    The US considers Hezbollah a terrorist organization. The Shiite militant group has used drones at least since 2004. The indictment alleges the conspiracy operated from 2009 through December 2013. It says the equipment included electronics that can be used in drone guidance systems, one jet engine and 20 piston engines that can be used in drones, and a pair of digital video recording binoculars.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5117805,00.html

    I wonder why Hezbollah , the Arabo terror orginazation, need drone parts ??
    Is it to spray their crops with anti bugs stuff ?
    I know they have 50000 or more missles hiding under Lebanese houses .. but drones ?
     
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    Sure I've seen drone vids from ISIS to girl scouts.


    Its late and Ima bout to nod off but I have to ask.. OK I get it we consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization but drone parts? And all of this effort and investigation and I'm guessing now extradition for drone parts and a few cameras? All of which they could have ordered off of Amazon I'm pretty sure. I get the investigation but there was no terror plot uncovered here? Just drone parts. Wonder why all the trouble
     
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    I doubt you can order drones with jet engines on Amazon.
     
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    Because of the date this to me looks like it could be some of the work done by Project Cassandra now finally coming to fruition. I think in December Jeff Sessions "officially" kickstarted Project Cassandra again and they've been very busy since... billions in drugs, Tillerson in Argentina asking for cooperation to clamp down on Hezbollah financially.. now this... and that's only those things we hear about.
     
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    I wonder how we stumbled onto these guys when the CIA was so busy spying on trump?

    Jarad Kushner must be involved with this story somehow and they only caught the Lebanese by mistake
     
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    Terrorists like drones, whether they're the USA or the USA's enemies
     
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    Whoah how did we get from a drone arrest to this? I mean 90% or more of the entire Middle East is Muslim so sure when violence occurs whether it be at the direction of a government or terrorist organization they almost have to be Arab Muslims. There is no one else there :)

    No Muslims are not responsible for most of the violence in the world either. I mean where does your opinion get this stuff? Your making it easy for leftists.

    The key to me is numbers. Where there are few Muslims.. Islamists and extremists have very little success in recruitment. Or in changing the existing cultures they live in. Islam then is just another religion. It's when Muslims begin to comprise a significant portion of the population that the religion ( which is the most successful on the planet) becomes very dangerous to the culture or society it is ah visiting. Then they start trying to change that society to suit them and their beliefs.

    Case study : London. Mhm. Muslims changed it because they and leftists don't believe in separation of church and state except when it's convenient for them and their agenda. Western culture losing.

    Case study : Myanmar - Muslims comprised a very high % of the population.. Correct me but I think as high as 30%. A very peaceful Muslim minority but the existing culture saw what I see and that is... Muslim majorities don't coexist or integrate.... They assimilate. So the existing culture is forcing them to leave. It's not pretty but it could be worse. Eastern culture winning.

    I have huge respect for the perfection that is the Muslim religion as a faith, provides family structure, behavioral rules, political apparatus, and military options. ( ISIS Caliphate)

    I am Western and I do not want to be or my children's children to be Muslim. So since they refuse to integrate into other societies outside of the ME? I don't want large numbers of them here.

    Nothing against them personally :)
     
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    To defend their land from Israeli land theives.
    To defend themselves against the nuclear armed murderous apartheid regime of Israel.
    What did you expect, that in order to defend themselves against the land thieves they would use spears?
     
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    Right ... but it is no problem when our tax dollars are used to supply manpads (surface to air missiles) to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
     
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    I mean jet engines are pretty easy to make in the first place. Why waste the money buying one?
     
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    You have huge respect for them ... Most of them do not have the same filling towards you.
    Time will prove i'm right
     
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    I did not say I respect them. Don't quote me then say I said something I didn't. That is weak.

    I stated I respect the religion. Not respecting something that is that good at its designed purpose/s is almost as dangerous as shallow racism.
     
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    My deepest apologies ..
    I did not understand , You have huge respect for Islam , but you can't say if you reapect Muslims ?
    And please stop with the racism statement .. That is shallow
     
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    Aw I'm sorry as well I don' t think English is your native tongue is it? I barely can speak my own language so I very much respect your ability to speak multiple.

    OK I explained in my first post why the Muslim faith is from an analytical standpoint the most powerful of any existing religion. Past or Present. To deny its success is foolish. You can not do battle with a superior foe if you don't respect it. If you don't respect a stronger opponent you will lose quickly... In order to defeat a stronger opponent you have to understand it. Find a weakness.

    So yes I respect the Muslim faith. Not because I respect its beliefs. I have serious issues with some of it.

    As to whether I respect Muslims personally that's difficult to answer. I know they believe we are all blasphemers. Their faith demands it. They may not say it but they don't like other cultures. In their brainwashed minds they coexist with us by just saying we are not enlightened. All religions brainwash. That is its function. So.. If the Muslim faith is inarguably the most successful religion on the planet its also the best at brainwashing.

    I don't respect anyone that doesn't think for themselves.

    The Muslim faith has so many different facets that allow for it to grow, defend itself, and be in denial its just fascinating.

    Ever notice how moderate and progressive Muslims denounce Islamists? Or more radical conservative Muslims? Sometimes they even kill each other... That's one day. The next day they are perfectly able to go to mosque with or study with them. They share that basic fundamental belief in the teachings of Mohammed and everything Western is foreign to them. It's a symbiotic relationship. One attacks the other makes peace. They protect each other. The religions foot print grows as a result.

    Thank you for the question.
     
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    Thank you for your answer.
    I can't say i like it .. But thank you.
    I do not respect those who do not respect me , my way of life and my culture.
    I do not respect those who illegaly enter my country and try to change things instead of integrate !
    I think that people are closing their eyes , thinking Islam will not effect their lives , and that's a Huge Mistake.
     

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