31 Reasons why I won't take the injection

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't think it's the strength of a person's immune system that matters, at least in some portion of cases. Athletes, children and otherwise healthy people have been killed by this. Besides, you get it to help avoid spreading it to others as well as to protect yourself. Don't be stupid and don't be selfish. Get the jab and do your part to help the country and the world get past this. Simple as that.
     
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    Far simpler is to just investigate to see what percentage who get this actually die from it. The percentage is extremely low.
     
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    That's ignoring and dehumanizing the real death and suffering that this virus causes in favor of a comforting-sounded number.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    This post sounds like an advertising brochure from one of the manufacturers.

    In reality the virus is as dangerous as the flu virus. I've never taken flu shots and am somehow still alive.

    This entire fiasco was a planned event, and one of the goals was major profits for pharma.

    Do your part and contribute to those profits.
     
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    No, it is exposing the lies and other misinformation being put out there which is actually dehumanizing and effects the suffering (caused by their lies to control people).
     
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    Lots of people also say the earth is flat. Because "lots of people" say something does not make it true, only propaganda that no one challenges.
     
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    The real number is far less than the government and CDC would like us to believe. Any comfort derived is in your mind only.
     
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    Globally.
     
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    No, you won't be mask free for some time because too many people are refusing to get vaccinated and we will reach a herd immunity much later than hoped. The fastest way for the masks to go away is to shun anyone refusing a mask in public. When enough of them die and the rest start getting vaccinated then after a season of still several months masks will be no longer needed at all.
    My advice is to avoid public places that allow no masks without a vaccine card.
    Shame really.
     
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    You didn't answer my question. Why should someone who has been vaccinated have to wear a mask and social distance?
     
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    Because the vaccine is 90% effective. While you are not likely to spread it you have a 10% chance of getting it. When with vaccinated friends and family you dont need the nask.This is why masks are still needed where anti vaccine people are. Once their number is either sick, dead or vaccinated then in a few more weeks the transmission rate becomes tiny and while some will still get sick and may die the numbers are very small and masks no longer needed
     
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    Only 9% of the US were infected prior to the vaccine. According to your logic, it sounds like we have better odds without the vaccine than with it.

    https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-n...-have-coronavirus-antibodies-study-finds.html
     
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    Vaccines aren't 100% effective. Depending on the vaccine they are between 70% and 90%. But thats better than 0%.
     
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    The vaccine I am taking is 90% effective. My odds are much better than a lottery!
     
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    This is why the right is so dangerous. This is why religion is so bad.
    They are straight up murderers.
    This is also why scientific illiteracy is dangerous. It takes very little critical thinking to see how much nonsense is in this, but somehow people will still buy it. And not just on this topic.
     
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    Critical thinking like, my odds of dying from the virus are proven far greater than my odds of dying from the vaccine. Maths simple enough for even the scientifically illiterate to understand.
    165,000,000 Americans vaccinated, no unexplained deaths
    330,000,000 Americans unvaccinated, 550,000 deaths.
    How good is your maths? Do you need me to do the percentages for you?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I hope you're right, but if you're basing your optimism on advertising brochures from Pharma, I hope you don't experience buyer's remorse. :peace:
     
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    And the fact that a a dozen or more million people have had the vaccine with no ill effect and none have since caught the virus.
     
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    More Americans have died of this in one year than died of war in WWII and Viet Nam combined. There's your perspective.
    Get the shot.
     
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    Over a hundred million in the US alone. A few thousand have then caught and died of the virus. As they say, the vaccine is only just over 90% effective. Of course if enough people get vaccinated the number of deaths of the vaccinated will plummet to eventually near zero or even zero.
     
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    Some will always die of the virus. The vaccine only works if you have an immune system to activate. So very old people with failing immune systems will succumb just as happens with flu.
     
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    I think we might have noticed by now if it didn't work. I see your position has slipped from its dangerous to it might not work. :lol:
     
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    You forgot to include in your perspective that the world population has increased hugely since WWII and Vietnam. There are many more humans now than then, for perspective.

    The shot is dangerous and experimental. Such cocktails have never before been used on humans. That explains how young female recipients of the shots are beginning to experienced spontaneous abortions months later.
     
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