38 Men Raped in U.S. Military Each Day

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why does your title say "38 men raped in US military each day" when your source does not say 38 men are raped in the US military each day? If I'm reading this correctly, it says "Sexual assault" and that can be many things besides rape.

    Can you provide a quote that backs up your claim?
     
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    Brother, it's been 4 days. I have a feeling they are not going to answer.
     
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    It has been 10 days now, and we did not sidestep anything. Still no response?
     
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    He must have read his source and realized that the thread title was false.

    Happens to the best of them
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you at least point out in your own source that proves 38 men are raped every day in the military? Once again (as you refused to discuss), your source doesn't confirm anything about 38 rapes of men per day. Don't worry- we expect you to not answer lol
     
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    Another friendly reminder to cite where 38 men are raped every day in the US military as you claimed in your OP.

    Another week goes by...you're just as silent.

    Thanks for showing us your true colors though :)
     
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    This is a great example of false reporting, and false outrage based on pushing an agenda.

    I myself am outraged at sexual assault, and believe it not only should never happen, but those who do such should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But when somebody is only pushing an agenda, the actual "crime" does not matter, it is the agenda that matters.

    And when their narrative is busted, first they try to double down and shove it even harder into your face. But in here when it is repeatedly busted with facts, they just quietly slink away.

    And the fact that this individual is somebody I have never really seen here in the Military section before even enforces that to me even more. It is not even military related, it is all political.
     
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    Democrats are the ones who wanted "don't ask, don't tell".
     
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    It's probably all in the Air Force, I wouldn't worry.
     
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    Happens to his posts at least 50% of the time.
     
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    Here is my question now. Is the OP going to comment on this case where a British soldiers was sexually assaulted?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8236381/female-soldier-sexually-assault-male-colleague-warning

    Here we have another example of a male sexually assaulted in the military. Is she just as outraged that the perp in this case was not thrown in jail for a year as most others are? All she got was a reprimand, and he was told he should not press for it to be handled officially, as it would hurt his career.

    But does anybody think that if it was a male who broke into the female barracks and tried to molest a female, they would not be sitting in the brig right now awaiting a Special Court Martial or worse?
     
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    That's 1.15% of the military per year, approx 5x the general population.
     
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    From what we were told during our last mandatory SHARP brief that we are forced to go all the time, the majority of victims in the Army are actually male.

    But the Army suffers from the same political correctness as society in this regard which is why every single SHARP poster plastered all over the place in the hangar is a photo of a woman with a thousand yard stare with some caption saying "This is unacceptable" or something.

    Come to think of it I've been doing this job for a lot of years and I don't think I've ever actually seen a SHARP poster featuring a male on it.

    We're all supposed to just be "Soldiers" and all equal but we still push the agenda that women are more threatened than men in our so called toxic male dominated Armed Forces...

    We're slowly getting sort of better though. At least they finally rescinded that idiotic SHARP law that said something like "If Joe and Jane are both drunk and have sex then Joe goes to jail because drunk Jane can't consent but somehow drunk Joe can consent because men are evil". Now it's just if both are drunk then whoever tells on the other one first wins. Which is just slightly less idiotic than before but at least the PC police finally admit that drunk PEOPLE can't consent instead of only drunk woman can't consent.

    I'm so glad that I'm in a unit where our females are more foul mouthed and vulgar and politically uncorrect than the guys are and all laugh at the SHARP program the same way we do. It's so much less stressful of a work environment when the main ones cracking inappropriate vulgar jokes are the women. And when our battalion SHARP rep is a woman who has a vocabulary akin to one of the characters from the HBO series Deadwood lol.

    But then again my particular line of work in the military doesn't attract people with sensitive feelings of any gender and you wouldn't survive more than a few days in our career field if you walked around getting "offended". It makes policing up SHARP incidents that much easier because our female's are tough as nails with foul mouths so if they reported a SHARP complaint against you then we KNOW you actually did something terribly wrong. Which has happened before here and that guy refused to even return back to work (which he could do) during his investigation because he knew that showing his face around here after arguably one of the toughest Soldiers in our unit (a female) filed a SHARP complaint against him would be an unwise decision.

    He's now at Leavenworth.
     
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    Agree. But what did you expect from some of the same people that post such nonsense?

    Thanks for the great explanation.
     
  16. Nightmare515

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    That right there is the problem with reports like this.

    The definitions of Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment are so ridiculously broad that it statistics get blown way out of proportion to the uninformed.

    I am literally, and I mean literally, sexually harassed on a daily basis at work. I am sexually assaulted at work when a fellow Soldier kicks me in the rear as I'm walking down the hallway. We get the same stupid SHARP brief like every other month. Touch somebody and they tell on you then you're screwed. Make an inappropriate joke and someone with soft skin tells on you then you are screwed. Talk about sex and someone hears you and tells on you then you are screwed.

    The military definition of sexual harassment and the commonly accepted definition of sexual harassment are not the same.

    Coming up behind a female while shes sitting at her desk to look over her shoulder without her permission is sexual harassment. LITERALLY, we were briefed that...

    That is the type of asinine definitions that we deal with under the SHARP program. Good luck getting accurate statistics when if you are in a tent in Iraq and it's 137,000 degrees and you take your shirt off and a female happens to walk by the tent flap and see you then that's a SHARP violation....

    Once again, thankfully for us our female Soldiers aren't like that. My best friend here is a female Soldier, when we go to the field she sleeps in the male tent (as a proverbial middle finger to the SHARP program and because she hates living with a bunch of lower enlisted females who are like 15 years younger than her). She always sleeps in the cot next to me. The guys change clothes in there, have their shirts off, talk about guy stuff, etc. And guess what? She doesn't give a damn because shes not a little princess and actually has common sense unlike the people who defined the SHARP program.

    The only problem with her being in our "male tent" is the fact that she douses herself with that damn perfume she wears which makes the whole tent smell like that because "You bastards all smell like sweaty ball sacks". Her being in our tent in itself is like 17 counts of sexual harassment, and her throwing her nasty pants at me while I'm laying on my cot and saying "Wanna know what a chick smells like after not bathing for 3 days dude? hahaha" is sexual assault.

    And guess what? Nobody gives a damn.....There is actual sexual harassment and assault and then there's the Army's version of SHARP. Those two are not synonymous. But the Army can't scale down the definition of SHARP because then the PC police would blow a head gasket thinking that the military doesn't care about it. They already threw a fit when Mattis put out a memo last year saying that we are no longer required to brief this dumb garbage every week and we need to focus more military tactical oriented training for increased lethality. Right off the bat we had PC police crying about how the Army must not care about women because we only have to get briefed that male troops are the devil once every few months now instead of every damn Friday afternoon.

    Rant over lol.
     
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    The problem I believe is actually with the reporters that create stories like this.

    Most of the time when the statistics are released, included are the definitions used, and what everything means. But many reporters either do not bother to do even basic research, or are purposefully misreporting in order to achieve a story they want.

    Not unlike the OP, which interestingly has pretty much bailed from this entire thread she created when it was shown how wrong her initial claims were.

    And I am finding this amazingly common in here. Some Liberal tries to make an attack, then when it is shown they are wrong they simply slip away and never say anything again. They do not even have the integrity to go "Oooops, yea, you are right. I said that wrong, my bad."

    I have great respect for those that can admit they made a mistake, I have done it often enough in here. I have little respect for those that either entrench in and double down on their mistake, or simply slip away and try to pretend it never happened.
     
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    And that's what pisses me off honestly. A whole lot of people in society think that the military is one big frat club to where women are just being raped indiscriminately because they read reports like this and don't understand the actual context.

    Even the Army itself paints a false narrative by having SHARP posters of women plastered all over the damn place when women aren't even the primary victims of sexual harassment/assault in the military. I won't make this as an absolute statement but as somebody who's been in for years and been to multiple duty stations I have NEVER ONCE seen a SHARP poster depicting a man. They may be out there somewhere but I've never seen one.

    Our civilian SHARP rep even openly admits during every single brief that males are the majority of victims, yet her entire lecture is always focused on how screwed your ass is going to be if you so much as look at a female Soldier wrong. We've had an open petition to fire her for years, and a few months ago an official letter was written to the Division Commander and signed by multiple Officers and Warrant Officers asking for her to be removed because her narrative was unprofessional and inappropriate and flat out false. She was suspended for awhile put she popped up again a couple weeks ago and delivered another brief so I guess she's still around. I don't know, I refuse to attend any more SHARP briefs and luckily I have the rank and authority within my formation to not go if I don't want to.

    Hell 2 years ago we were all ordered to the auditorium and were forced to listen to a female SHARP victim openly denounce and name call every single male Soldier in the formation because "I was a member of this unit and none of you did anything to prevent me from becoming a victim. Shame on every single one of you". That was the "PG" version of what her speech was. She openly trashed talked all of us males without remorse and was allowed to stand up there for 20 mins and call us an assortment of names. We left that place with not only little remorse for her story and what she went through but with multiple Soldiers even so much as saying they didn't even care about what happened to her after that tirade she went on about us.

    I'm sick of the false narrative that the military is some huge rape fest and the men are all rabid dogs who will automatically just rape the first female Soldier they see because they can't help themselves.

    Here's a news flash for the uninformed. Male and female Soldiers share the same barracks building in my unit, and even live on the same floor. A guy can walk across the hall and be in a girls room, and there is no regulation that says they can't interact with each other.

    Number sexual assault/harassment violations from my unit in the past 2 years.

    Zero.

    Number of Soldiers who have sex with each other on a daily basis? Roughly a metric **** ton.

    Mind blowing ain't it.
     
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    Who in the Pentagon? An anonymous source? This article is fake news.
     
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    Oh, I would believe it easily. So long as you use the literal definition of "Sexual Assault" that the military does.

    And that is not rape. It is not even attempted rape. Somebody slapping the bottom of another under military definitions is "Sexual Assault".

    And also, do not forget that these statistics track the sex and affiliation of those assaulted, not those who did the assault. So yea, if a civilian out in town assaults a military member, that is a "military assault". If a DoD contractor assaults a military member, that is also a "military assault".
     

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