4-Year-Old Boy Suspended from Daycare for Having Tiny .22 Shellcase

Whether you think a rule is "fair" or not when you choose to disobey, you choose to be punished.

Teaching a 4 year old child otherwise is irresponsible.

So, again, absurdity comes only from those who think this is a gun issue rather than a behavior issue.

 

The rules are the rules. When a child disobeys, the child should be punished. The failure to do so only teaches that rules are for others.

This comment:
"And since you and yours continue to beat the gun dog...Do you really want to give a firearm to someone who has demonstrated, since the age of four, a complete inability to follow the rules when it comes to firearms?"

Is pointed at those who think that this child, after being taught since the age of four that obeying rules is "optional" when you don't like them, would somehow become a "safe" firearms owner later in life.

 

The first few times he disobeyed it was "nothing." His continued disobedience, if not dealt with, will evolve into a serious behavior issue.

It is not a gun thing, it is a behavior thing.

 

Could be that he was told on several occasions that the behavior was unacceptable at school.
Could be that he continued the behavior despite the warnings.
Could be that both he and the parents were counseled about this behavior.
Could be that despite the warnings and the counseling he continued the behavior.
Could be that his continued misbehavior eventually drew the appropriate response.
Could be that it's not about guns but about the child's refusal to follow the rules.

Wait, not "could be that." I'm not talking about what "might" be, I'm talking about what "IS."

Care to join me in Reality Land.

 

And? What was he going to do throw it at someone?

 

I guess you don't understand what an expended casing is. I say that due to c and d where you call it a shell, and it wasn't that at all. It was an empty, tiny, harmless piece of brass. There is no bullet in it. No powder, no wadding, nothing. Just an empty shaped piece of brass. Harmless.... well I guess due to its size(no bigger than a thimble and in this case(a .22) smaller than a thimble) it could be considered a choking hazard, but it being a possible choking hazard had nothing to do with the suspension

 

Really. Where did it come from? It came from FIRING a weapon. How does a 4 year old end up with an expended "shell"? Does the school know? They do not. All they know is that this FOUR YEAR OLD (who had an obsession with guns) had exposure to a gun. Minimizing the size of the bullet casing does not change what it was.

 

He found it on the ground, expelled from a .22 rifle over the weekend, while Hunter was target practicing with his police officer grandpa. He was so excited, and snuck it to school to show his friends. We had no idea about it.”

Hunter’s grandpa, in fact, was hard at work teaching his grandson about hunting and responsible gun use, KTVI said.


Perhaps read the OP its there for a reason.

 

Until some kid puts it in their mouth and chokes on it like it was a Happy Meal toy from China.

 

AS most do, Squirt guns, Pop guns, Cap guns, nerf guns, dart guns , bb guns LMAO

Inert, SPENT, harmless can never ever be discharged again!

Reagan was shot with a .22 caliber handgun and struck with a .22 calibur BULLET not a casing found on the ground

.590mm X .224mm casing, an average cigarette is 84mm long and twice the width. Regardless of the size of the spent casing the lethality is the same, ZERO! The only scary thing about this is the uneducated and uninformed trying to make examples and mountains of mole hills

 

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about firearms beyond their own irrational fears

 

Some rules are discriminatory and arbitrary and need to be defied.
Once again, you sound like an officious authoritarian straight out of North Korea and I would also defend any child who gets caught playing tag, despite the moronic dictates of the school he/she must attend. Remove the stick from your butt!

The child must surely be puzzled and hurt because his family
supports and loves him, despite his infatuation with guns (which is quite normal and harmless) and his grandfather. So why does the school "hate" him (as he's come to rationalize the situation)? What's irresponsible is the school that puts this child in an unnecessary emotional dilemma over it's own asinine, knee jerk irrational fears.

The issue
is a school that has traumatized an innocent child by taking their absurd neuroses and putting them on this child.

The administrators here shouldn't be in charge of a box of hamsters, let alone innocent human beings.

As for you I suggest moving to North Korea where authority figures are obeyed
without question always regardless of their sanity.

 

I know plenty about firearms (bought my first shotgun with my own money at 12 and own numerous guns still).

And obviously I don't "fear" them.

However a four year old has no business having ANYTHING to do with guns. Period. The school did the right thing. They have no idea if the next day this kid was going to bring the gun that fired that "thimble sized" bullet casing

 

The school didn't know a dang thing as they called it a shotgun shell. The article tells you exactly how he acquired it: was at the shooting range with his police officer grandfather and he saw it and picked it up. And so what if he had exposure to guns? That's not illegal whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised if half the students at the school have been exposed to a gun. Oh the horror!

What it was was nothing. Are you afraid of inert pieces of metal just sitting there that can do nothing to you? Do you walk around your home in fear of a coke can hurting you? How about your silverware? How about your can opener?

All of those items can do you more harm than a spent .22 casing.

 

I was hoping the same from you! But clearly you don't know enough about weaponry or four year olds to bridge that gap! The people at the day care made way to much about it when all they had to do was take it away and told the child to not bring "THESE" casing to school and left it at that! They, like you, are trying to make folk believe he has brought "CASING" to school numerous times and that's not the case at all! He may have been warned about making paper guns, pop tart guns, drawing pictures of guns but he was never told or TAUGHT to not bring a CASING to school. Clearly they and others expected the four year old child to automatically know that a spent casing was also verboten in die socialist gulag. God forbid a adult be troubled to teach a four year old that there are 26 letter in the English alphabet and that they can also be capitalized or more than one ingredient in a loaf of bread!

That's the difficulty with raising young children they don't come with windows 10 already installed, you have to constantly upload related information

 

Sure, sure you did.

His school overreacted. The parents are better off finding a different school.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

Hey N Korea has enough bad press Their age of accountability is the same as China Fourteen years old! The idiots at the daycare facility are far more authoritative than even N Korea! I wouldn't be surprised that at age six or seven they have public floggings

 

Somethings stick out like a sore thumb

 

Let's try to look at the bright side - we've finally discovered the side of liberals that believe in law and order!

Now, if I were that's kids parents, I would have told the admin's that he self-identifies as Squeaky Fromme or John Hinkley - Now the admins would have no choice but to praise the kid instead!

 

I had forgotten all about her and yes, the correlation between the two victims and assassins are stunning!

 

Incidentally our schoolpal Alan Erskine once brought a box of bullets to school when we were about 10 yrs old and I can remember to this day how thrilled we all were because we'd only read about bullets in cowboy comics and had never seen real ones before..
I think they belonged to his dad, but of course the girls snitched to teacher (like girls do) and he was quietly removed to the headmasters office for interrogation while his parents and police were called in.
It never made the newspapers and he was let off with a warning.
God we loved that kid because he was such a rebel, one of his favourite tricks was to sh*t himself in class with his pants still on; a smell of rotten cabbages would fill the classroom and he'd be squirming around in his seat with a bright red sweaty face as he forced it out. He then got a nice half-hour break from lessons while the school nurse cleaned him up and found some clean pants for him..

 

When I was in six grade our Science teacher brought a `3 x 2" 3/4" ID pipe welded to a 16" x 16" steel base that turned out to be a carbide cannon. One cup of water and one teaspoon of Calcium Carbide and quickly tamp a cloth wrapped coke can filled with sand and 30 seconds later touch a flame to a hole drilled at the waterline at the bottom of the pipe and Voooooooom, coke can never to be found again

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One more
We also used to dumpster dive for old beer cans and take seven and cut the top and bottom off of six and leave the seventh intact and duct tape them together with the intact one last. Then we'd make a small nail hole in the bottom can lil off the ways up from the base of the last can, charge it with a squirt of lighter fluid and whoosh it like a wand to mix air with gas and then drop a tennis ball down the barrel and put flame to the hole voooooooom, hand held tennis ball cannon!

 

At 4 years old I was cleaning K98's, firing K98's, and practicing with other rifle variants. Why is a .22 cal case a big deal to anybody? It's nothing but a piece of brass. I think I still have a picture of me cleaning my first one that my great grandfather gave me for Christmas as just a young child.

I grew up with firearms, I had (have)enough surplus ammunition to shoot everyday. I've never had an accident, I've never pointed a gun at someone without reason, I don't see the problem with raising these kids to use these tools at the youngest age possible so they understand it more thoroughly.

A child's mind is like a sponge, Why not fill it with knowledge at the best age possible?

Honestly the meticulous way in which I was raised with firearms probably prepared me for med school better than any school could have, it taugh me to be methodical, always. Reloading ammunition and stripping weapons will do that.

 

Oh, yeah the reality is punishing a small child for having a spent .22 casing. Little boys pick up sticks and stones too, they are more dangerous than a .22 shell casing. If punishing a small child and making him feel bad about himself is your reality, you can have it.