43,644 people shot in America thus far this year

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I'll just ignore your lack of a link in the OP....Got any data on how many were legally obtained AND legally owned guns?
     
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    Like a plague of locusts...
     
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    What relevance does any of that have to the desire by those who want to reduce gun violence in the US by enacting enhanced gun control measures?

    https://time.com/5626352/gun-laws-fewer-child-deaths/

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/sta...ms-deaths-heres-how-your-state-stacks-up.html
     
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    Because the only people gun control would impact are those who abide by the law, which...typically ISN'T murderers, robbers, gang bangers or drug dealers. That's one of them asinine "gee wouldn't it be nice if" idiotic hot takes from the left.

    The desire for guns by those who would want to do harm would still be there and would still be filled.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course, they are, and the gun violence and crime that is rampant in the cities they're mismanaging is merely a symptom of another problem Democrats had a hand in creating.

    This is a warning issued by Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) to his fellow Democrats back in 1965 when they were enacting their grand social welfare programs - see if any of this looks familiar to you today:

    "From the wild Irish slums of the 19th century eastern seaboard to the riot-torn suburbs of Los Angeles, there is one unmistakable lesson in American history: a community that allows a large number of young men to grow up in broken families, dominated by women, never acquiring any set of rational expectations about the future -- that community asks for and gets chaos. Crime, violence, unrest, disorder -- most particularly the furious, unrestrained lashing out at the whole social structure -- that is not only to be expected; it is very near to inevitable..."

    When's the last time you heard a Leftist or a Democrat talk about that - 56 years ago?

    They don't even want to talk about that problem, much less solve it, because confronting the failure of the Demokrats' social welfare schemes poses an existential threat to their party.
     
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    Heh, heh ....ANY Democrat today daring to express such sentiments would be unceremoniously drummed out the party.
     
  7. 61falcon

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    Shootings skyrocketed last year too and this year we are surpassing them, far too many unsafe people allowed to buy fire arms. We have millions who cannot be safely trusted with a butter knife owning legal firearms.
     
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Name the police departments that actually got defunded ??
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Direct result of defunding and lack of respect for law enforcement.
    I realize this is only a blog. But if you will try google, you will find other sources.
    List of Cities Defunding the Police | Surge in Crime (secureamericanow.org)
     
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    THATS FREEDOM TALKING RIGHT THERE BABY!!!!!!!
     
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    I live in Chicago. Its doing just fine.
     
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    Thirteen cities reduced police budgets and moved the money to mental health and drug rehabilitation programs, no city or state fully defunded their police departments which all have huge budgets.
     
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    No one claimed that they have fully defunded. They have reduced the funding. Reduce the funding and they can do less and now you are seeing the result just like it was predicted before the democrats headed off on this stupid idea.
     
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    Do you think the only gun violence is perpetrated by such folks? Let's be clear. Gun control isn't going to stop gun violence, just reduce it.
     
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    The word DEFUNDING implies complete reduction of funds not budget adjustment.
     
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    I am not even sure what you just said.

    Now lets start from the beginning. The democratic cities reduced funding to law enforcement and now we are seeing the results.
     
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    Dang democrat run cities.
     
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    Do you deny the insurrection all across the country against Federal buildings by the left?
     
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    So you think that they are buying their guns legally, or illegally?

    What percent of those committing crimes involving guns, already have a criminal history? What percentage of those people have never before committed a crime and obtained their gun legally?
     
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    Perhaps you do. I don't. The last shooting around here occurred about 25 years ago.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I go the other way and prefer to live where NOBODY carries guns. That way you don't have to worry about accidents and sudden fits of temper as well as not having to worry about criminals. How to keep criminals from having guns and thus preying on a disarmed populace? You can't do that entirely but you can come close if nobody is permitted to have firearms and there are draconian penalties for just having them at all.
     
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    Zorro, this is what happens when the left is in a thread they know looks bad for them, they deflect. If it's not 1/6 then it's slavery, Jim Crow laws, or their favorite, Trump. I'm giving serious consideration to putting on ignore the people who either constantly deflect or troll.

    On topic, there are 4 people living in my house and we have a gun. That gun has never shot anyone and probably never will, but if that gun went to Baltimore the odds of it shooting someone increase tremendously. The problem isn't the gun, it's the people who pull its trigger. But we can't address that because of the overwhelming percentage of specific people who pull those triggers, and doing anything to stop them from pulling those triggers would be fought hard by the left and ACLU.

    Instead of complaining about missing white woman stories, perhaps Joy Reid and her counterparts would like to explore who's doing all the shooting, who's being shot and why.
     
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    If you live in the good old USA you live in perpetual war zone.
     
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    A bank is robbed and oo one is caught, Therefore no crime was committed and the bank still has all their money?
     

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