4th Reich On The Rise In Europe?

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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I didn't know better I would think Hitler is alive and well in Europe.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...e-as-u-s-retreats-juncker-says-idUSKCN1LS0BX?

    STRASBOURG (Reuters) - The European Union must flex its muscles as a world power, EU chief executive Jean-Claude Juncker said on Wednesday, as he spoke critically of U.S. President Donald Trump’s retreat from international engagement.

    “Whenever Europe speaks as one, we can impose our position on others,” Juncker said

    “The geopolitical situation makes this Europe’s hour: the time for European sovereignty has come,” he said.

    In repeating his support for deeper economic integration, he also pushed the idea that the euro should challenge the dollar as the world’s leading currency

    At the same time, the Commission put forward a plan to get even tougher on illegal economic migrants whose arrival has so angered Orban and others.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe they're just tired of the daily dangers they're being forced to endure 'cuz multiculturalism.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So instead of blaming the Jews for their woes, the EU Executive is blaming the "economic immigrants?"
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are they blaming Jews?

    Who's killing and attacking the Jews in France? Is it the Reich?
     
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    Hitler blamed the Jews. Now it seems the EU Executive is blaming the "economic immigrants."
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is to blame for their behavior?
     
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    Who was the First Reich?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've always wondered that myself.

    Maybe it's like Star Wars and they started with Episode IV.
     
  9. flyboy56

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    Seems the EU Executive disagrees with Merkel's immigration policies. Germany, Merkel, has a strong influence on EU policies since they control the money.
     
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    The Holy Roman Empire is considered the 1st Reich.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not really what I asked.

    Are you saying that the "economic migrants" shouldn't be blamed for their behavior?

    Do you think they're being unfairly evaluated by the populace in all of those countries?
     
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    But that would mean the Germans did win...
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I make no opinion. Just an observation. Clearly the EU Executive disagrees with Merkel's immigration policy.
     
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    Did the German 2nd Reich win? Or the 3rd?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see.

    Who exactly is the Reich here, is it the EU government, is it Germany's position, is it populism...

    Where do you see a Reich?
     
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    Hitler falsely blamed the Jews for issues the Jews had no role. The EU is correctly blaming the migrant hordes for problems they have caused.

    Stop the propagandizing.
     
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    The headquarters for the 4th Reich is unclear at this point. But it will most likely be somewhere in the EU.
     
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    Yes but where is it coming from?

    Is it a particular group of people or just a prediction?
     
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    The reason why a group of people are blamed is unimportant. What is important is the EU Executive is blaming the "economic Immigrants" for the EU's woes.
     
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    EU chief executive Jean-Claude Juncker.
     
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    They did conquer Rome. The Holy Germanic Roman Empire lasted until the end of WW1 and the fall of the Austrian-Hungarian empire which was the last piece of it. The second Reich was under Bismark up to the end of WW1 also.
     
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    France is actually German also, the Franks, mmmm, franks....
     
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    They were a germanic tribes who were fleeing the advancing Mongol hordes, like the Vandals and the Alain who went south, sacked Rome on their way to cross the Meditarean sea and settled in Carthage. The Wisigoths continued west and settled in what is Spain today. The Franks intermarried with the Gauls and Celts already in what became France.
     
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    Ah, ok. So it's a top-down approach.

    Is it just the migrant situation or is it him talking about bending other nations to the will of the EU, or are they intertwined?
     
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    But never knew about baked beans...
     

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