4th Reich On The Rise In Europe?

So if we say that some races are smarter than others on average that is considered racist yet for the Jews, they get a free pass? Interesting.

I bet Charles A. Murray gets a good laugh in these days.

I've noticed this going on the last two years, apparently Jews are just superior to everyone now where it is accepted in mainstream where we shouldn't question such overrepresentation whatsoever.

 

Firstly, I fully support your right to express your views and feel that you have done so politely, honestly & effectively.

I am repulsed by those who would censor your right to express your thoughts. Mature adults who chose to participate in this forum should not come here with the expectation that only politically correct views may be discussed.

The primary reasons for banning someone should be because of verbally abusive rhetoric, death threats, "doxing" & related excesses.

Secondly, Yes, I too note that some American Jews seem to be disproportionately represented in MSM (Hollywood etc), the financial-banking field and other areas but what is most concerning is America's unconditional & obscene support not just of Israel & its criminal machinations but of the regional ambitions of Israel's Right Wing as spelled out in the Oded Yinon Plan.

I must add that unconditional support for Zionist criminality comes not only from Jewish individuals & organizations but from the "Christian Right" & Christian Zionists who are developing an enormously destructive influence on US Foreign policy.

Finally, I'm sorry that circumstances arose to cause you to feel hostility to what I see as a quite diverse group of people but, then, we are all products of experiences & people who have shaped our views.

 

Yes, radical and fundamentalist Christian Zionists are just as bad. You'll get no argument from me there.

 

Are we now considering this is not inflammatory, hateful, language against the Jews?

From the forum-rules that state what can not be posted;

 

I had no idea the term Jew as a label was an ethnic and racial slur, what other word or label should I have used instead?

 

Actually what I said can be proven by quoting Jews themselves or their religion, would that been more politically correct? I have no control or influence what Jews say amongst themselves after all. I can do that for now on if it is deemed more sensitive and politically correct.

 

If by "fourth riech" you mean the intolerant progressive liberals, then yes.

 

I think this is more politically correct and acceptable, here I am quoting a Jewish person and merely bringing public attention to it. I don't view this as violating forum guidelines.

If there are any Jewish individuals viewing this quote, can you explain to me why he thinks like this? I can't seem to get a straightforward answer from anybody or from Jews themselves. What did he mean by this?

 

Well, I'm not Jewish but if you don't mind me providing my opinion, it's sounds like he's saying misery loves company. And that he believes it's high time the white man felt the same misery people of color have been experiencing.

 

And this is justifiable?

 

Most Jews are white....soo

Judaism is a religion. It isnt an ethnicity. Just because a religious book says that a person is Jewish if they have a Jewish mother, it doesn't make it so.

 

I guess in his mind it is.

 

Yes, many of them are European converts more specifically Eastern European however there are some Middle Eastern Jewish ethnic varieties also.

Nonetheless they view themselves as a distinct differing race and ethnicity in a sort of hyper religious manner interestingly enough. You'll notice they're obsessive tracing their bloodlines all the way to mighty king David himself.

You'll ask if they're white and automatically they'll retort that they're not where instead they're Jewish.

 

What about in your mind? I'm curious.

 

It's theoretically possible that what Flyboy56 is saying is correct. Perhaps the insane opinion of this man is merely a clumsy way of saying, Walk a Mile in My Moccasins if you want to understand me.

But let's assume for the sake of argument this this a real quote from a real person, and that he is a Jew.

Well, then here is one -- 1 -- horrible person. Send him to a border kibbutz!

Then the question becomes: is this the unanimous, or the majority, or even the widely-held, belief of all Jews? You actually believe this? Albert Einstein secretly hoped to see 'whites' burned alive???

We're really getting into clinical insanity territory here.

As for Zionists. Yes, all nationalists when they are fighting it out with other nationalists, are horrible. Jewish nationalists, Croatian nationalists who slowly sawed off the heads of Serbs, Burmese nationalists raping Rohingya children, those gentle Buddhist Sinhalese who throw Tamil children into the fires of their own homes ... nationalism's logic is genocide, and since we're basically the third species of schimpanzee, in the fury of tribal conflict some really ugly stuff happens.

What a shame that the Jews -- their extreme nationalists anyway -- have joined this repulsive line-up. All honor to those many Jews who haven't, including especially to those Israelis who do not go along with the Greater Israel expansionists.

 

If it was one Jew saying such things I would say it is an isolated incident, but when it becomes hundreds of Jews saying similar things over countless years, at what point can we describe it as common held views or beliefs?

Where are there Jews publicly condemning people like this one quoted? Why are there none or if any in short supply?

 

This man -- assuming it's a real person -- has said such terrible things. Do you think that there are actually hundreds of other people -- Jews or otherwise -- also saying them? I doubt that very much.

Look ... I have been on various rightwing/conservative mailing lists for many years. From time to time, someone forwards some sort of quote supposedly from the Left, along these lines: 'Ha ha ha ... these stupid Americans... wait until I, Hillary, get power .. and they see their children being strangled' or something almost as crazy. There is a famous one, from Ezra Taft Benson, supposedly a report of what Kruschev said to him when Kruschev visited the US -- it's something along the lines of 'We won't have to fight you ... you'll fall into our hands like a ripe fruit .. because your liberals will destroy you from within'. This is the least crazy one. There are far worse.

I usually ignore them, but I occasionally point out to whoever sent it to me, the following: using your common sense, do you think if Kruschev thought this, he would tell his enemies about it? Would he actually reveal the Soviets' great secret weapon, American liberals? (Plus, if you know anything about this period, you will know that the Russian Communists were vigorously defending themselves from the Chinese Communists, who were accusing them of 'modern revisionism', the idea that there could be a peaceful transition to socialism. It's the LAST thing Kruschev would have been quoted as saying. But then few people know anything about this period, so forget that -- just common sense alone should tell you that Krushchev would never have said such a thing, even if he believed it. )

You have to believe that all the Jews who are on the Right, who oppose mass Third World immigration into the US and Europe -- and I could list dozens of them -- are just trying to fool us.

You have to simultaneously believe all the Jews who are on the Left, who are extreme critics of Israel, are just trying to fool us.

This is not a rational view. You seem to pride yourself on being logical, rational, on having read a lot. Well, reading a lot is a good thing, but ... I can tell you from personal experience that once you are locked into a worldview, you can read hundreds of books that confirm it. I was a pretty serious Marxist for more than two decades, and there were hundreds of books to read, most by intelligent people, to confirm my views. But ... I should have read a few that attacked my views...

All I can see is, ask yourself: is there any evidence that would challenge my view? If there is literally NO evidence that would make you question you view of a monolithic Jewish conspiracy ... then I submit you're in the grip of a powerful irrational delusion.

I have a friend whose daughter is, potentially, a brilliant mathematician -- probably has a higher IQ than you and me put together -- and neither of ours is small. I read the external examiner's report on her PhD, and she is capable, in his opinion, of world-class work in her field. But ... she is also insane. It's very sad. It comes and goes. But when it comes, she believes the most improbable things, and acts on them. Tragic.

I'm not saying you are like that, i.e. clinically insane, but it's an analogy that matches things well. You're gripped by a powerful delusion. I wish I could break you from it. Perhaps some day someone -- probably a Jew! -- will make some breakthrough discovery that will allow us all to overcome irrational thinking, the way we have overcome polio.

 

You may doubt it all you wish but I have an endless amount of similar references concerning quotes. I could go on with stuff like this for days on end.

Are you implying the quote is a fabrication? Why would you automatically assume that? Go research the individual I quoted.

I don't believe I am irrational at all and I am usually pretty thorough researching any belief that I have in a very methodical empirical manner. I'm all about evidence concerning proof.

I'm all about the facts and evidence where I believe in nothing without both. I verify all claims that come my way.

 

Lot of people agree with Juncker's "together we are stronger" argument, so it is a stretch to make a Hitler connection based on that. Juncker is talking about economic integration, while Hitler was talking about world dominance with military might, race superiority, genocide and all kinds of crazy ideas.

As for Euro replacing USD, I think the EU imagined that might have happened a long time ago, but the petro-dollar stands in the way, and that is unlikely to change. Iraq started trading oil in Euro, and look what happened to them (not that it was the only reason, more like the last drop).

As long as oil is traded in USD, there will be massive demand for USD and it guarantees USDs position as world reserve currency. This is important to remember given the ongoing Saudi "bone saw" issue. I expect Trump admin to do whatever they can to brush it under the carpet and avoid risking the petro-dollar balance.

 

It's wrong to wish anyone should experience the atrocities he spoke of. He does not make it clear if he believes the white man deserves such atrocities or he thinks we could learn something from the experience.

 

Of course it is! If this is a real person, he's as mad as a hatter.

It's ironic in the extreme to have a thread which simultaneously has arguments that not all Germans under Hitler were raving bloodthirsty Nazis eager to kill all the non-Germans they came across, while not all Allies were sweet kind gentlemanly liberators giving candy to German children -- a necessary thing to argue, to counter "victor's history" -- on the one hand; and, in the same thread, to have someone who believes -- does he really believe this? -- that all Jews are raving bloodthirsty Zionazis eager to kill all the non-Jews they come across.

 

I didn't interpret his statement that way. I didn't see it as a hateful desire for white men to experience the kinds of atrocities he spoke of. Rather I believe he believes white men could benefit from the experience as in walking a mile in someone else's shoes as the saying goes.

 

"Selective Outrage Syndrome"

The operative word in the rule you cited was "inflammatory" which is, of course a completely subjective term that could be more appropriately applied to any number of truly inflammatory comments comprising the anti Islamic /anti Arab threads you will find in the forums Mid East Section.

Additionally, I think that most forum members value a civil, informed & spirited exchange of ideas over attempting to appease selectively outraged individuals who would repress sincere discourse among willing participants of an open forum.

Please feel free to start a thread on your interpretation of "inflammatory". I'd be delighted to participate.

Meanwhile, let's try to stay on topic.

Thanks

 

Sounds like a bunch of excusable apologism to me.

 

Again, where is the Jewish outrage when one of their own speaks like this? *crickets*

The silence is deafening....