5 billion hecacres of hope for climate change

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  1. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    [video]pemaculturenews.com
     
  2. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    Apologies... I was trying to post a video by tony Lovell and messed it up....sorry. It is a good video to watch.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This?

    [video=youtube;wgmssrVInP0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmssrVInP0[/video]
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    That's the one thanks.
     
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    Good video....

    I began a discussion with a similar video a while back......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-geoff-lawton-permaculture-tipping-point.html
    Geoff Lawton: Permaculture & The Tipping Point
    Over the past several years I have watched several absolutely fascinating films by this man.

    He is clearly attempting to improve our lives………… and save the lives of our children and grandchildren.

    I have got to find his film about how simply getting farms to NOT burn the stocks from the previous year's crop….. but instead use them as a mulch that holds in water…… can profoundly alter how we view the possibility of turning deserts green.


    Geoff Lawton: Permaculture & The Tipping Point
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1la9ik-MscM
     
  6. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    I have been watching many videos lately on the subject of pemaculture and soil management. I even do not so scientific experiments at home. My last one proved to me that 8 inches of dirt mixed with composted manure will grow great vegetables on top of solid rock. I am going to a BTE garden from now on. I also have several tons of horse manure composting out back with more on the way. Permaculture is great in dry land farming but fire must be addressed during the dry season and I have yet to see it addressed. Maybe some form of fire lanes are in order so fires can be contained. You might also check out Gabe Brown... He has done wonders on his farm and makes good profits. I could go on ...I tend to get long winded on my favorite subject.
     
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    Prominent in the frame you posted is the Keeling Curve. It is fraudulent from the get-go.

    Here is the curve of greenhouse gases, of which water vapor is by far the largest contributor, at
    15,000 parts per million, vs. ~400 for CO2. Total annual change in all CO2 is ~1.3 parts per MILLION.
    Hello! 1.3 divided by 15,500 is what, class?

    Keeling Curve3.jpg
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The whole world isn't part of a conspiracy. You're just awful at the science, on every level.

    CO2 and water vapor cover different parts of the IR absorption spectrum.

    And changes in water vapor concentrations are is driven by CO2 concentration changes.

    Basic stuff, and you fail at it.
     
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    mamooth
    This message is hidden because mamooth is on your ignore list.

    Nothing to see here, folks. Just move on to the next thread, where hose like mamamouth will continue to subtract from the sum total of human knowledge.
     
  10. politicalcenter

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    Warm air hold more water than cold air. If I remember correctly hydrogen is positive and oxygen is negative. This weak charge holds water molecules together. It takes energy to evaporate water. The energy is heat. The climate must warm before water vapor in the air increases. The warming comes first.
     
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    1. Air does NOT "hold" water. Rather, the vapor pressure of water increases as ambient temperature increases, even if there is only water in an enclosed container.
    2. You do remember correctly. Kudos.

    Well, yes and no. Oil and other non-polar liquids "hold together" quite nicely with no charge whatsoever.
    Warm, moist soil increases decomposition of dead plant and animal life. Decomposition releases carbon dioxide. Umbrellas do not cause it to rain, and neither does carbon dioxide drive earth's climate. You commit the fallacy of logic known as Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc, or "after the fact and therefore causing it." Billions of dollars of taxpayer money have flown into the hands of professional liars and charlatans, and the taxpayer money continues to fly out the window, far outpacing any meager efforts by those DREADED "oil companies" who all global warmers should boycott now and forever more.
    Walk, don't drive.
     
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    Decomposition of plant material releases CO2, methane, and nitrous oxide. Anaerobic decomposition of plant waste releases much more methane than aerobic decomposition. The science of decomposition of plant material is not fully understood. At least the identity of all microbes and fungus involved. But it does happen. I have tons of material composting out in the back of my property. I hot compost the material. It stores more carbon than is released and over time becomes the more stable humus. When added to the soil...and my container plants..
    .increases plant growth and this growth also stores more carbon. The debri can also be composted and that carbon can also be stored. Carbon is lost in the process but more carbon is stored than lost...much more. The process can also build soil much faster than occurs naturally. The humus also stores and filters water and improves tilth. We could save billions by composting waste rather than dumping it in landfills. Alcohol evaporates much faster than water because it is not held together by a weak molecular bond. I don't know everything about why fluids evaporate but I know a little about plants and soil. Please don't take this personally I just love the saying... It's the ecology, stupid. It is a saying that may help get the message across and get people thinking.
     
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    We could also reduce commercial fertilizer use and begin to restore the "dead zones " "under the sea.
     

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