5 girls accuse boy of sexual assault. Later admitted it never happen.

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  1. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but how do you sort it out? You can only GUESS who is telling the truth. Both perpetraitor and victim could be lying, how do you prove one way or another without evidence and details that can be proven.
     
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    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    No, just a clear and present troll.
     
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    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    This is what #BelieveWomen encourages.

    #BelieveEvidence
     
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    Welcome to Trump's America.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    ^ Sidepot thread win.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Again, a COMPLETELY absurd comparison.
     
  7. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Yes, their evidence is simple. Women never lie.... That is the evidence.
     
  8. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Now how does Trump fit into this. Oh that right, it is all his fault.

    No, it has nothing to do with Trump. And if you want to blame someone, how about Hillary and Bill.
     
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    Under the law if a woman is unable to prove that she was raped then no rape occurred under the law.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ends justify the means gibberish. Lets just throw a way the rule of law ... why not ! That is what human garbage is made of.
     
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    I think you're about as Jewish as David Duke.
     
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    Clearly there was some legitimate proof offered in the priest case, since many outright resigned and/or quit. I believe that not only are they not different things, but they are standards we should uphold. Has anyone SERIOUSLY not read the Salem witch hunt trials?
     
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    This is a good watch. Crowder revisits some of the most notable cases where claims ended up being false.

     
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    This is disgusting. This poor guy never did anything and will have scars for the rest of his life.
     
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    I guess your point is that Nassar was a serial rapist so this kid has nothing to complain about.
     
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    Matress Girl went through all that commotion to make herself look like the idiot that she is.
     
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    What do you mean by that? Are you suggesting allegations of sexual assault should be automatically dismissed out of hand? While the report clearly suggests several elements of this case were handled incorrectly, the fundamental principle that if a viable accusation is made, in needs to be properly and fully investigated. We don’t want to swing the pendulum all the way back to how it was in the not so distant past, where abusers could operate with almost impunity.

    Arresting him seems perfectly legitimate, publicly identifying him at that stage certainly wouldn’t be. Nor would expelling him from school, though there would need to be some consideration of his schooling, if only because having the accusers and accused in the same school, potentially the same classes, would obviously be inappropriate regardless of the truth of the matter.

    It’s a highly difficult situation for schools. They’d obviously have no idea the girls were lying at the outset and maybe not even after they confessed to the police. If the accusation had turned out to be true, they’d likely be attacked for not being hard enough on the accused boy so it’s something of a no-win situation for them. Whatever legitimate balance of response they find is going to be imperfect regardless of the outcome, especially given legal processes will always take time to work through. Regardless, I’m not convinced reactive civil suits are beneficial in the long run; fear of that kind of thing from anyone involved can clearly be a factor in poor decision making on the part of schools and other organisations in similar situations.

    That’s a perfectly valid question but I think it should be entirely separate from your first. Conflating the two aspects does a disservice to the importance of both.
     
  18. Lesh

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    I agree. I'm thinking Russian agitprop troll acting like a "crazy liberal"
     
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    Not quite just like OJ wasn't declared innocent. If there is no evidence of rape, then there is no evidence of rape. It doesn't mean the rape victim should be convicted and jailed for the same sentence as a rapist.
     
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    Again...more than 95% of claims of sexual assault and rape turn out to be true.

    Do we ignore that?

    Which do we do? Ignore what's happening to women on a regular basis or do we investigate properly and get it right..

    Ask your selves..

    Do you know ANYONE who was falsely accused like this?

    Do you know any women who have been raped/sexually assaulted/molested?

    I'm guess the first question gets a resounding NO...from almost all of us

    And the second gets an equally resounding YES
     

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