5 girls accuse boy of sexual assault. Later admitted it never happen.

Not much different than when the Sierra club said they would rather see forest burned than logged.

 

No.

I mean we can have an accusation where we do not know the truth which is the vast majority of accusations.

False accusations are not a statistical anamoly.

You are also repeating a bald faced lie as no one has advocated punishing victims

 

That is true. The flaw in your argument, is that it doesn't apply to this dicussion.

If one were to apply logic, without moving the goalposts, the argument would be stated: That an allegation isn't proven true, doesn't prove it's false.

 

"Wait, so you mean you can have a true accusation even if the person is “found innocent”? Then how can you tell a false accusation from a true one?"

That's why we (mostly) have trials by jury. When we have media show trials, by public opinion, being conducted for political victories, justice, decency, and morality suffer.

 

There is no such jury verdict as "innocent".

 

Innocent until proven guilty. If they are not guilty, transitive logic would dictate, they are innocent.

 

Many times they are sometimes they are not.

In most cases we just do not know.

No one but you is trying to claim it has to be either or

 

Here's the quote:

Where am I suggesting "the Repubs" are committing honor killings?

 

Disagreed. OTOH, they should be prosecuted to the max for a false report plus, if the accused did any time, the false accuser should do the same amount of time.

 

Never said committing the killings Max, please do not play stupid games with me. Go back, reread my statement.

 

I did. What are you trying to say here, Toe?

Do you really believe the false rape problem is equivalent to the rape problem?

 

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that our system demands that, unless proven guilty, the subject is to be presumed innocent. Not necessarily proven innocent, but to be treated as such. There is a difference between treated as innocent and being innocent.

 

WRONG.

Thousands of people who aren't innocent are found Not Guilty all the time.

They may be found Not Guilty on a techicality, or many other reasons.

Guilty people go free all the time.

 

yes, false accusations happen too, everyone know this, did any of the false accuse pass a lie detector test?

 

I agree, though I also know in reality these girls if they would of faced time for admitting it... probably never would of admitted it... so catch 22

real sexual abusers love false accusers, as it helps them get away with their crimes

 

Never mind Max, not worth explaining to you the words that you own. Seems backwards to me.

After this Trump thingy is finished maybe I can enjoy some of your insight once again. No worries though, I have been known to show my ass with Progs once they killed off the Democrat Party and became emboldened.

 

Nobody knows.

 

There are Democrat senators and a washed up actress who have actually been saying things very similar to this

 

But from a legal/government standpoint, they are innocent. The law must treat them as if they are innocent. So an “innocent” person was accused of rape by a woman and found not guilty. Meaning the accusations from that woman were false and if the OP has his way, it’ll be time for that woman to face a trial for his “false accusations of rape”.

 

It doesn't necessarily mean the charges were false. It only means that they were not proven true.

 

Since the Neo-Cons and the Alt-Right have killed off the Republican Party, it’s a fair bit of balance that the Progressives have killed off the Democratic Party. All that’s left is to sit back and be amused.

 

Kinda, local politics is the true battle. I will always be a conservative with the emphasis on the constitution which gets me into trouble in all circles, just glad I have good friends and family that love me.

 

That isn't the other side of this story. That's an entirely different story.

Nobody thinks that because the girls lied about this boy that all women and girls are liars.

 

$$$$$$ It cost HUGE sums to defend yourself in court. Court is a rich man's game.

 

But it damages cases of real rape. These cases prove the women is not automatically right or honest, and that may be true.