5 Reasons Men Are Reluctant to Get on the Sexual Harassment Bandwagon .....

Since the Harvey Weinstein case broke into the news, we’ve been deluged with stories about women who were sexually harassed, raped or molested in Hollywood and elsewhere.

This is not a bad thing. Let me repeat that: this is not a bad thing.

That being said, a lot of men are leery of the glut of accusations going on right now. This is something a lot of men think, but don’t want to say because they’re afraid they’ll catch flak over it. However, if you are a man, there are things that catch your attention about this wave of sexual harassment complaints that the opposite gender may not initially think about…

1) We keep defining sexual harassment down:
2) Sexual harassment is often dependent on the feelings the woman involved has about the man doing it:
3) Men have to be the pursuers:
4) Many women do lie about rape and sexual harassment:
5) The latest round of complaints about sexual harassment are shot through with man-hating:

What’s not a good thing is the man-hating that has gone along with it. There are an almost infinite number of examples I could give of it, but the sad comments of neutered, liberal half-men, saying what they think liberal women want to hear on the #HowIWillChange hashtag do the best job explaining what’s wrong with this mentality.

This is what men are being told they have to embrace to be free of the stigma of sexual harassment and “rape culture.”.....snip~

https://townhall.com/columnists/joh...t-on-the-sexual-harassment-bandwagon-n2404741

So, what do you think? Does there need to be some stressing of a level playing field? Are the man hating feminists taking advantage of this issue today? What say ye?

 

This is all a matter of respect of the individual. Just as you would hopefully not grab a mans ass in the elevator, you should offer the same respect to a woman.

 

MMC wrote: Are the man hating feminists taking advantage of this issue today? What say ye?

Uncle Ferd says, Yeah...

... dat's it inna nutshell...

... is all `bout penis envy."

 

After the time of Tailhook and the Clarence Thomas confirmation when workplace sexual harassment was the big buzz, Playboy (which was still pretty libertarian then) reported on a university study in which college women were asked whether they would feel "harassed", or neutral if not pleased, if hypothetically offered varying kinds of attention from various male co-workers. The study found that even frank propositions were more tolerable from wealthy and powerful males such as the company CEO who would make a good "catch", than being asked out pretty innocuously, especially a second time after being turned down, by an average guy in a low-level low-paid position. IIRC it didn't seem to find as much correlation on actual attractiveness.

 

Uncle Ferd says, "Yeah...

... dat's it too, is all `bout...

... money an' position an' penis envy."

 

Well....not exactly.


2) Sexual harassment is often dependent on the feelings the woman involved has about the man doing it: How can we have a “crime” where the standards vary based on how attracted the “victim” is to the “perpetrator?” Asking a woman out a second time after she turns you down if she likes you? Persistent. If she doesn’t? Creepy harassment. If a woman catches you staring at her and she finds you attractive? He’s into me. Awesome! If she doesn’t like you? Creepy harassment. Telling an edgy joke if she likes you? He’s so funny! If she doesn’t? Creepy harassment. What constitutes sexual harassment can feel like an iffy, ever-changing standard to men.....snip~

Just look at where we are now after the Sexual Revolution from the 60 to the 80's

 

What does that have to do with my commentary in ANY way?

I realize you simply want a complaint thread, but I am giving useful and truthful response...if that is not what you hoped for...tough titty.

 

It has a lot to do with your uhm thought. Especially if you are not looking at the obvious with assault and rape. Hence what the OP is about.....and not just your thought concept of grabbing another mans ass. Or about respecting everyone.

While I am sure there are gay men that do grab another guys ass. I doubt the percentage of them grabbing some guy's ass that they don't know.....isn't so common.

Oh you thought this was just a complaint thread. Imagine that.

 

Nevermind...Have A Nice Day

 

However, if you are a man, there are things that catch your attention about this wave of sexual harassment complaints that the opposite gender may not initially think about…

1) We keep defining sexual harassment down:
2) Sexual harassment is often dependent on the feelings the woman involved has about the man doing it:
3) Men have to be the pursuers:
4) Many women do lie about rape and sexual harassment:
5) The latest round of complaints about sexual harassment are shot through with man-hating:....snip~



I know......the usual when your assuming just doesn't give you any play. But then you thought it was a complaint thread anyways.

 

I bet Kevin Spacey wishes that was true.

 

According to a new $27 million Brooklyn federal suit, a former portfolio manager for an investment fund sexually abused and assaulted women in his Manhattan penthouse dungeon.

Howard Rubin, a former Bear Sterns trader, rented the space in Midtown’s Metropolitan Tower so he could have “brutal sex” with women, reports the New York Post. He paid the women between $2,000 and $5,000 per session, the suit, filed Thursday, says.

There are three unidentified plaintiffs in the case, two of whom are reportedly Playboy Playmates. They claim that Rubin, whose high-stakes dealing was featured in Liar’s Poker and The Big Short, raped and beat them to the point that they needed “excessive medical attention,” according to court papers and reports by the Post.

Rubin did not work alone—he collaborated with two female fixers and a lawyer. The group had the women sign non-disclosure agreements, according to the court filings. Balestriere wrote that these efforts were an attempt to “cover up Rubin’s sexual misconduct and criminal abuse of women and to serve as a cover for his wide-ranging human trafficking scheme,” according to the Post. .....snip~

http://www.realclearlife.com/crime/investment-fund-portfolio-manager-accused-raping-beating-women/

 

Yup. The same propaganda garbage about how society must always blame liberals and feminists for every problem that exists under the sun.


Say MMC, tell me how liberals and feminists are responsible for the failure of men who are raped in prison or in the military to come forward with reports of their victimization.

This should be interesting ...

 

Meh, chalk it up to american societal shizophrenia. We're outraged at how muslim societies treat their women; quite happy to use it as partial justification for militarily occupying, murdering, and extracting the wealth of other lands indefinitely. Ours is up for discussion, we're exceptional don'tcha know.

Victims of Sexual Abuse
Adults

• About 20 million out of 112 million women (18.0%) in the United States have been raped during their lifetime. 12
• Only 16% of all rapes were reported to law enforcement. 12
• In 2006 alone, 300,000 college women (5.2%) were raped. 12
• Among college women, about 12% of rapes were reported to law enforcement. 12
• A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey on the national prevalence of intimate partner violence, sexual violence, and stalking found:
  • 81% of women who experienced rape, stalking, or physical violence by an intimate partner reported significant short- or long-term impacts. 18
  • About 35% of women who were raped as minors also were raped as adults, compared to 14% of women without an early rape history. 18
  • 28% of male rape victims were first raped when they were 10 years old or younger. 18

Child/Teen Victims

• In a 2012 maltreatment report, of the victims who were sexually abused, 26% were in the age group of 12–14 years and 34% were younger than 9 years. 9
• Approximately 1.8 million adolescents in the United States have been the victims of sexual assault. 4
• Research conducted by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that approximately 1 in 6 boys and 1 in 4 girls are sexually abused before the age of 18. 1
• 35.8% of sexual assaults occur when the victim is between the ages of 12 and 17. 1
• 82% of all juvenile victims are female. 5
• 69% of the teen sexual assaults reported to law enforcement occurred in the residence of the victim, the offender, or another individual. 5
• Teens 16 to 19 years of age were 3 ½ times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.6
• Approximately 1 in 5 female high school students report being physically and/or sexually abused by a dating partner. 7

https://www.nsopw.gov/en-US/Education/FactsStatistics?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

 

Well, with this piece they are talking about sexual harassment with women and men. The majority of the population and that norm. Not prison nor in any armed service. You don't think women harassing men is a majority now do you?
Notice they didn't say anything about women's prisons and women raping other women or harassing them either. Why do you think that is, along with your, uhm thought.



1) We keep defining sexual harassment down: If a boss tells you to sleep with him or alternately to watch him shower (ugh….creepy) to keep a job, we can all agree that’s sexual harassment. The further we get from that kind of standard, the less we’re going to agree. Telling a crude joke, having a swimsuit calendar on the wall or a man putting his hand on your shoulder might legally qualify as environmental sexual harassment, but it’s all bullsh*t. Many women may think they deserve money because of those things, but a lot of men think if they can’t handle that, then they’re too delicate for the work force. We’ve even gotten to the point where a 93 year old man in a wheelchair with Parkinson’s pinching a woman’s butt and telling a dirty joke is considered traumatizing sexual harassment. It’s a joke, but it’s not funny......snip~



Blame liberals and feminists, huh? Now watch this.


For years, Republican Rep. Mary Bono endured the increasingly suggestive comments from a fellow lawmaker in the House. But when the congressman approached her on the House floor and told her he’d been thinking about her in the shower, she’d had enough.

She confronted the man, who she said still serves in Congress, telling him his comments were demeaning and wrong. And he backed off.

Bono, who served 15 years before being defeated in 2012, is not alone.

As reports flow almost daily of harassment or worse by men in entertainment, business and the media, one current and three former female lawmakers tell The Associated Press that they, too, have been harassed or subjected to hostile sexual comments — by fellow members of Congress.

The incidents occurred years or even decades ago, usually when the women were young newcomers to Congress. They range from isolated comments at one hearing, to repeated unwanted come-ons, to lewd remarks and even groping on the House floor. Coming amid an intensifying national focus on sexual harassment and gender hostility in the workplace, the revelations underscore that no woman is immune, even at the highest reaches of government.

Largely untold before now is that some female lawmakers themselves say they have been harassed by male colleagues. While rare, the accounts raise troubling questions about the boys’ club environment in Congress where male lawmakers can feel empowered to target not only staffers but even their own peers.

“I just don’t think it would be helpful” to call the lawmaker out by name, Sanchez said. “The problem is, as a member there’s no HR department you can go to, there’s nobody you can turn to. Ultimately they’re employed by their constituents.”....snip~

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...harassment_by_colleagues_in_house_135444.html

Looks like you wont be able apply any more victimhood to the leftness or think its just their problem.

 

The beauty of guilt/sin/blame is that no one is ever responsible for anything in american society.

 

Oh. Didn't you know?

Liberals are feminists are ALWAYS responsible. After all, right wingers always say so.

 

Especially if they're a Clinton.

 

Yeah yeah yeah.....the leftness is always to blame. They never get **** Right. That's nothing new. No need to keep bringing that up.

So tell us did the feminist start the sexual revolution of the 60s that ran into the late 80s?

 

I think you are onto something especially when looking at the Hollywood types. Do they know who they are themselves?



Tinseltown is no longer glittering. The movie industry was already foundering because of technological advances in media and entertainment. The latest string of flops pouring out of the studios has signaled that Hollywood's malaise is bad, really bad this time. But it’s good for us. The liberal, progressive agenda thrived on big money from media moguls and movie stars. Moviegoers were funding this institution, which invested in candidates and causes against our freedom, our traditional values, our constitution, and our Judeo-Christian culture.

Spacey issued a press release immediately, apologizing for these acts which he claims that he had never done, but if he had done them, he was probably drunk at the time--oh, and he had been bisexual and now decided to come out as a gay man. Yes, Kevin tried to cover up for past pedophilia perversion by coming out of the closet.

Then there's American Beauty.

The main character, Lester Burnham played by Spacey, is a bored, empty, repressed suburban father. Right away, all the brazen, Freudian Marxist stereotypes come to the forefront. Married life is bad, sexual license is good. People should be able to sleep with whomever they want to, and there is nothing wrong with that.

That film should have been called "American Ugly". It revealed Hollywood’s broken moral compass spinning out of control, justifying everything contrary to sound moral order. A homosexual couple living down the street from the Burnham family was presented as the only real stable, loving "couple". The army veteran next door (with mentally ill wife and drug-dealing son) was a closet homosexual. The film showcased adultery, mockery of natural marriage and family, and then glorified the natural yet destructive impulses in human beings.

Is this truly high class or artistic? Did this film remotely reflect reality in any true fashion? Nope, but in Sadistic fashion, this fiction outlined a moral treatise, one of decadence and disdain as acceptable as long as people feel “free” or feel good.

Spacey's fall from Glitteratti pre-eminence should not shock us, ultimately. How could anyone look at trash like "American Beauty" and call it award-winning? Hollywood, and the same coven of creeps and greedy moguls enabled and covered up for Spacey's behavior for decades to follow......snip~

https://townhall.com/columnists/art...pacey-and-the-downfall-of-hollywoodt-n2404736

 

Your guys are worse than my guys so there, quite an exceptional system.

 

Cmon now.....there is no way the Bush Neo Cons can even compare to Ma Barker and her crime family.

 

Ah, if only we didn't have to confront reality, it's american society:

Victims of Sexual Abuse
Adults

• About 20 million out of 112 million women (18.0%) in the United States have been raped during their lifetime. 12
• Only 16% of all rapes were reported to law enforcement. 12
• In 2006 alone, 300,000 college women (5.2%) were raped. 12
• Among college women, about 12% of rapes were reported to law enforcement. 12
• A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey on the national prevalence of intimate partner violence, sexual violence, and stalking found:
  • 81% of women who experienced rape, stalking, or physical violence by an intimate partner reported significant short- or long-term impacts. 18
  • About 35% of women who were raped as minors also were raped as adults, compared to 14% of women without an early rape history. 18
  • 28% of male rape victims were first raped when they were 10 years old or younger. 18

Child/Teen Victims

• In a 2012 maltreatment report, of the victims who were sexually abused, 26% were in the age group of 12–14 years and 34% were younger than 9 years. 9
• Approximately 1.8 million adolescents in the United States have been the victims of sexual assault. 4
• Research conducted by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that approximately 1 in 6 boys and 1 in 4 girls are sexually abused before the age of 18. 1
• 35.8% of sexual assaults occur when the victim is between the ages of 12 and 17. 1
• 82% of all juvenile victims are female. 5
• 69% of the teen sexual assaults reported to law enforcement occurred in the residence of the victim, the offender, or another individual. 5
• Teens 16 to 19 years of age were 3 ½ times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.6
• Approximately 1 in 5 female high school students report being physically and/or sexually abused by a dating partner. 7

https://www.nsopw.gov/en-US/Education/FactsStatistics?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1